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Soundwave
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How do you know how far I live from Haymarket/Waverly station, Specky Ginger? 
I do think the facility to have a drink in the ground would get more people in earlier, 200 Club being a case in point. Fair point though about tv money helping control prices.
(Incidentally, catch the Bundesliga highlights in ITV4 tonight, the first 3 Dortmund goals were beautiful) |
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sonofwallace
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Well said stelly and this is exactly that fans in the richest league in europe are saying that the working man is priced out of going to support their team.The only difference is the fans are having to pay £40,£50,£60 a ticket compared to us but still the same problem.It also affects the atmosphere as the tourist etc dont always join in the songs.Its time the game was given back to the people.The rovers are trying though which is good to see.
The best way to get an atmosphere at starks is to sort out the railway stand so folk can stand there.Make it season tickets only max 500 folk or whatever and you would see a big difference in atmosphere at starks.The south stand can not only be used for those who dont want to stand but also a family sections.The roary club could also have all their kids days etc in it rather than using the north stand.
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Kenny More
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Agree that the best thing to generate atmosphere is to get fans to all parts of the ground. I know this dilutes those that attend, but it must feel strange playing with both sides of the pitch empty. Even a couple off hundred down each side would help.
Using the sides also decreases the distance between fans - the banter and tension along the sides at East End and Brockville used to be great. It could help spark a lacklustre game on the pitch. |
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Kirky
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| embow wrote: | | Wolfman Jack wrote: | | Ray McKinnon. |
I wonder if Kirky has ever come back into the fold. See above.
Never seen a post on here (i.e. Fantalk) from him since....well, since the date of his last post above away back on January 26th.
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Embow,
The last match I attended was almost a year ago - away to QoS for an evening kick-off where the manner of our defeat just finished any hope I had that Murray could turn things around. I vowed then not to return until he'd gone, and irrespective of whether folk think that was the action of a sane man, I remained true to my convictions.
So, when the board decided to replace Murray, why did I not return? After all, I'd had a season ticket year after year, and not only did I go to home matches, I also went to the vast majority of away games. Certainly 30-odd games every season without fail. Walking out the ground after each match, win lose or draw, just looking forward to the next game.
So, why have I not been back?
It's not illness, or serious lack of money. OK, I live in Glasgow so there's always been an extra cost for me for every home game.
No, the reason is hard to quantify, as I'm not sure there is one thing alone.
I'm I busy working? Well, occasionally I work Saturdays - but I am under no obligation to do so.
Have I got better things to do?
Not really - often I'm just at home, checking the scores as the games progress.
So what is it? I'm clearly still interested in seeing Rovers do well, so why don't I get off my butt and get back to the games?
Honest answer is, I really don't know. I'm probably just a disaffected supporter who thinks "you know what, if I don't turn up it'll make absolutely no difference to anyone". And that's the point of me posting here. There are probably many folk out there who are doing nothing better, could afford to go, are interested in Rovers, but just can't be bothered going back as the momentum has gone. I've got out of the habit. Going to games are just a memory now. Some of them great, some of them poor.
It's easy to keep going when you think there's a purpose. When you stop going (in my opinion) it's so hard to get back into the habit.
Will I ever come back?
I really don't know. I'd say it's 50:50 at the moment. And the sad thing is, I don't know what, if anything, would make me come back.
And to think I went through all the Anelka debacle, the bad days under Hetherston, Dalziel, Scott and all the ups and downs of life in the lower divisions. And here we are, having our best start to a season in a long time, and I can see no reason to go back.
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bigeein
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| zicoromaines wrote: | | Yes Soundwave but is it not the case that the TV money that goes into German football some it is used to control the prices. I do agree with you though about having bars at various points aound the ground and being able to access the terrace with a drink. If this was available do you think it would stop the last minute rush to get into a game as you could go an hour before and have a couple of beers on the terrace with your friends. |
I would be at starks park earlier if there was a good bar open in the ground pre match. With my dad knocking on a bit and winter not getting any easier this would be a welcome addition to the fans match day experiance. Also somewhere to go at half time for a descent brew,a bit of warmth away from that lovely plastic seat,which seems to retain the heat to well.
Yes you can argue the fact of the cost to the club, however the 200 club dose very well for itself , which was self funded by 200 club volunteers. Expanding on that kind of success and fans dedication can only be a good thing.
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StarksBarmy
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| Kirky wrote: | | embow wrote: | | Wolfman Jack wrote: | | Ray McKinnon. |
I wonder if Kirky has ever come back into the fold. See above.
Never seen a post on here (i.e. Fantalk) from him since....well, since the date of his last post above away back on January 26th.
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Embow,
The last match I attended was almost a year ago - away to QoS for an evening kick-off where the manner of our defeat just finished any hope I had that Murray could turn things around. I vowed then not to return until he'd gone, and irrespective of whether folk think that was the action of a sane man, I remained true to my convictions.
So, when the board decided to replace Murray, why did I not return? After all, I'd had a season ticket year after year, and not only did I go to home matches, I also went to the vast majority of away games. Certainly 30-odd games every season without fail. Walking out the ground after each match, win lose or draw, just looking forward to the next game.
So, why have I not been back?
It's not illness, or serious lack of money. OK, I live in Glasgow so there's always been an extra cost for me for every home game.
No, the reason is hard to quantify, as I'm not sure there is one thing alone.
I'm I busy working? Well, occasionally I work Saturdays - but I am under no obligation to do so.
Have I got better things to do?
Not really - often I'm just at home, checking the scores as the games progress.
So what is it? I'm clearly still interested in seeing Rovers do well, so why don't I get off my butt and get back to the games?
Honest answer is, I really don't know. I'm probably just a disaffected supporter who thinks "you know what, if I don't turn up it'll make absolutely no difference to anyone". And that's the point of me posting here. There are probably many folk out there who are doing nothing better, could afford to go, are interested in Rovers, but just can't be bothered going back as the momentum has gone. I've got out of the habit. Going to games are just a memory now. Some of them great, some of them poor.
It's easy to keep going when you think there's a purpose. When you stop going (in my opinion) it's so hard to get back into the habit.
Will I ever come back?
I really don't know. I'd say it's 50:50 at the moment. And the sad thing is, I don't know what, if anything, would make me come back.
And to think I went through all the Anelka debacle, the bad days under Hetherston, Dalziel, Scott and all the ups and downs of life in the lower divisions. And here we are, having our best start to a season in a long time, and I can see no reason to go back.
Analyse that. |
Still plenty of you (us) out there.
I was every home and at least half every away game for more years than I care to remember. The football under Murray was depressing, as was the atmosphere and mood right through the club which was a total shame given the magnitude and exposure of the league that season. I stopped attending very early in season but for one or two games later on.
Once the habit of a lifetime is broken then it ain't easy to get back on the horse, I can confirm. Only managed 3 games this season and while things are better on so many levels, my football 'urge' isn't what it used to be |
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Tam
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Good heartfelt report Kirky and I've been there as well however, it was only one game back and that was a defeat to Arbroath (when the hospitality suite was re-designed and opened) but the spark was re-ignited.
Its getting that spark re-ignited again in you and in many other fans. The big question is... How?
Back to the atmosphere... the only way in my opinion is a fans singing section that would hopefully spark the rest of the fans to sing.
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Sinclairtoon
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if you are, like me a"senior", borrow a bairn or two! I've been bringing different foster kids for quite a few years now, both ours and those of other foster carers. They don't need much other entertainment, even going to the kiosks on their own is a thrill for them and it's a safe environment.
They have a great time and get hooked on being special - a Rovers supporter when most of their pals claim to be Rangers, Celtic or Man U! |
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rovers4ever
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Good post Kirky.
I was like you, and as an updater last season, I found it such a depressing experience trying to text updates as we were getting gubbed.
he final straw was losing 4-0 at home to livi, Murray's last match in charge. I walked out after the 4th goal and texted an update to inform all viewers (I suspect there wouldn't have been more than a handful at that time).
I was intending to resign as an updater until it was confirmed Murray had been sacked. I left it at that, intending to continue. Imagine my surprise when I was told I had brought the club into disrepute and informed my services would no longer be required.
Who brought the club into disrepute really? Me? Just because I exercised my decision to walk out??
To be honest, I was extremely annoyed at the time, but in the long run, I have to say that freed from doing updates, I am quite enjoying the football. The football on display is on a par with the football when we won the 2nd division and realistically, if you remove Rangers and Hibs, who ordinarily would not be in the Championship, we are joint top with Falkirk and the team are genuinely doing their best, its clearly evident and Ray McKinnon's tactical changes are a breath of fresh air.
You should come along for a match to see how thiongs have improved and take it from there Kirky.
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Northern_Rover
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A frank summary from Kirky but if the current manger, squad, tactics and results cannot tempt someone like him to even come along and have a sniff at whats going on this season, I don't see what else the club or anyone else can do. Once apathy sets in and other habits take over thats a tough nut to crack.
What I will say Kirky is that you are missing out this season on something that has largley become enjoyable again and that's from someone who likes a good moan now and again.
However if Saturday afternoons are about watching scores scrolling along the bottom of a TV screen and that floats your boat I don't see what else the club can do to attract you back. |
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scotty
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Come back Kirky, I miss you 
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CALDERON
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| Kirky wrote: | | embow wrote: | | Wolfman Jack wrote: | | Ray McKinnon. |
I wonder if Kirky has ever come back into the fold. See above.
Never seen a post on here (i.e. Fantalk) from him since....well, since the date of his last post above away back on January 26th.
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Embow,
The last match I attended was almost a year ago - away to QoS for an evening kick-off where the manner of our defeat just finished any hope I had that Murray could turn things around. I vowed then not to return until he'd gone, and irrespective of whether folk think that was the action of a sane man, I remained true to my convictions.
So, when the board decided to replace Murray, why did I not return? After all, I'd had a season ticket year after year, and not only did I go to home matches, I also went to the vast majority of away games. Certainly 30-odd games every season without fail. Walking out the ground after each match, win lose or draw, just looking forward to the next game.
So, why have I not been back?
It's not illness, or serious lack of money. OK, I live in Glasgow so there's always been an extra cost for me for every home game.
No, the reason is hard to quantify, as I'm not sure there is one thing alone.
I'm I busy working? Well, occasionally I work Saturdays - but I am under no obligation to do so.
Have I got better things to do?
Not really - often I'm just at home, checking the scores as the games progress.
So what is it? I'm clearly still interested in seeing Rovers do well, so why don't I get off my butt and get back to the games?
Honest answer is, I really don't know. I'm probably just a disaffected supporter who thinks "you know what, if I don't turn up it'll make absolutely no difference to anyone". And that's the point of me posting here. There are probably many folk out there who are doing nothing better, could afford to go, are interested in Rovers, but just can't be bothered going back as the momentum has gone. I've got out of the habit. Going to games are just a memory now. Some of them great, some of them poor.
It's easy to keep going when you think there's a purpose. When you stop going (in my opinion) it's so hard to get back into the habit.
Will I ever come back?
I really don't know. I'd say it's 50:50 at the moment. And the sad thing is, I don't know what, if anything, would make me come back.
And to think I went through all the Anelka debacle, the bad days under Hetherston, Dalziel, Scott and all the ups and downs of life in the lower divisions. And here we are, having our best start to a season in a long time, and I can see no reason to go back.
Analyse that. |
Lost cause, move on.
Need to encourage new fans to go and watch the Rovers, not guys who clearly have no intention of coming back.
As has been said - if the current offering isnt going to encourage the stay-aways back then nothing is.
Anyone who went on Saturday would surely have seen enough in the Second Half and the way the club were going about things to go back again. |
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embow
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| Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:23 am Post subject: |
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Will I ever come back?
I really don't know. I'd say it's 50:50 at the moment. And the sad thing is, I don't know what, if anything, would make me come back.
And to think I went through all the Anelka debacle, the bad days under Hetherston, Dalziel, Scott and all the ups and downs of life in the lower divisions. And here we are, having our best start to a season in a long time, and I can see no reason to go back.
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Kirky I wouldn't know where to start with an analysis!
I can appreciate your thoughts though. I too make do with updates and scores coming through on Finalscore on the red button, however it's a distance thing for me. If I was in Fife or its surrounding colonies I would be trying to get to as many games as I could but who is to say that the initial novelty wouldn't wear off. I doubt it, but the possibility is there nonetheless.
I walked away from playing golf in favour of much more cycling (than previously) over twenty years ago. Did I miss it? Initially possibly I did, if I'm honest, but after a season away playing the game just no longer interested me. I still follow the game but to a much lesser extent. That's as close as I can get to how you might be reacting to going to the fitba'. Could it be that most weeks you are watching tv football and packaged highlights? Personally I think this has a big effect on many fans/folks expectations on what they are going to see. Once or twice at a ' live' game it took a second or two to realise I wasn't going to see the goal scored again from a number of different angles! 
Anyway I can only wish you well and hope that you may yet come back into the fold. Living in Glasgow maybe give Dumbarton away a shout? Easy to get to and from. More preferable than Ferguslie Park in Paisley.
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Kirky
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Embow,
No, I've got no TV packages - just standard cooncil telly. It's bad enough, without paying more money for something I neither need nor want (was it Frankie Boyle who said "200 channels and **** *** on"?).
As Calderon said, I'm possibly a lost cause. Probably best to move on for now. |
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| Kirky wrote: | Embow,
No, I've got no TV packages - just standard cooncil telly. It's bad enough, without paying more money for something I neither need nor want (was it Frankie Boyle who said "200 channels and **** *** on"?).
As Calderon said, I'm possibly a lost cause. Probably best to move on for now. |
Similar to myself re- telly. Cooncil telly does me just fine. I refuse totally to subscribe to the Rupert Murdoch slush fund and as for BT....... pay more than is needed for phone and Internet as it is without contributing another fiver a month for games I rarely watched when they were broadcast free.
Ach well, lost cause you may be at present but never say never. 
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