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Graeme Meldrum
Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 1254
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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bigeein wrote: |
JIM MCINALLY |
he's suck enough blood out of us as a player |
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Tam Moderator
Joined: 06 Jul 2008 Posts: 6453 Location: Kettlebridge
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with that lot.
One manager I would have in a flash - Colin Cameron, he is made for the job. |
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A Trialist
Joined: 02 Jun 2009 Posts: 414
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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bigeein wrote: | CRAIG BREWSTER. JIMMY CALDERWOOD. JOHN HUGHES . GORDON CHISHOLM . ERIC BLACK . JIM DUFFY . JIM MCINALLY . JOCKY SCOTT.
DICK CAMPBELL. JOHN ROBERTSON |
Only ones from that list i'd have as manager would be Brewster and Eric Black. _________________ When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bike. Then I realised that The Lord doesn't work that way, so I stole one and asked him to forgive me. |
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CALDERON
Joined: 14 Jul 2008 Posts: 1723 Location: Aberdeenshire
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:07 am Post subject: |
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bigeein wrote: | I think we need to understand that last season was an exceptional season .
we over performed for 3/4 's of the season punching above our weight and catching out teams with how good our squad was last season .
this season all the managers in div 1 are more wise to mcglyns tactics.
add to that loosing key players and no fresh investment to the club has tied 1 arm behing the managers back .
However ,,,, he has had 5 years to blood the youngsters in the youth system ,set out a style and playing system he wants them to play and integrate them into the side . HOW MANY PLAYERS HAVE COME THROUGH THE RANK'S SINCE HE HAS BEEN IN CHARGE
We have nothing to loose buy droping one or two players who are underperforming for youth players , in fact i would go as far as saying fans would be more forgiving of bad results if the young guys are getting a chance ...
I myself think we have to give him a bit of respect and more of a chance to try and pull us out of this .
lets review it again in the new year .
I have not voted but if he were to chuck the towel in or be sacked ( god forbid i would'nt like to see that ) here are some managers that are not in the game at the present moment , managers i think the rovers could aford an maybe intrested in getting envolved
shoot me down if you like but here we go .
CRAIG BREWSTER. JIMMY CALDERWOOD. JOHN HUGHES . GORDON CHISHOLM . ERIC BLACK . JIM DUFFY . JIM MCINALLY . JOCKY SCOTT.
DICK CAMPBELL. JOHN ROBERTSON .
THE MAJORITY HAVE MANAGED AT A HIGHER LEVEL AND ARE GOOD OPTIONS .
time will tell . |
Craig Brewster - Failed as manager
Gordon Chisolm - Failed as manager
Jim Duffy - Average and uninspiring
Jim Mcinally - Failed as manager
Dick Campbell - What?
Jocky Scott - Had his chance, did nothing whatsoever. Failed to get a Dundee side out of an average at best league with a blank chequebook.
John Robertson - Doing an average job, no reason to see why he would be a success here.
The rest - cant afford and would laugh at our budget.
Thats the problem with calling for Mcglynns head. There is nobody out there in our reach who would do a better job. |
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embow Moderator
Joined: 05 Jul 2008 Posts: 13036 Location: Lybster: O'er 'e Ord and far frae Fife
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:54 am Post subject: |
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Tam wrote: | I agree with that lot.
One manager I would have in a flash - Colin Cameron, he is made for the job. |
Davie Kirkwood is picking away quietly at things up here with the Academy, but then again, the last manager we took out the Highland League wasn't exactly a raging success
Those of certain vintage will know who I talk of.
However to contemplate a change of manager is daft at present. The team is good enough to work out of the present slump. I accept it is hard for some to accept this after the rather good two seasons that have gone before. As I said before, compare the last 3 seasons Ross County have experienced. _________________ Talk on! Talk on!
You'll never talk alone.
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Graeme Meldrum
Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 1254
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:09 am Post subject: |
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embow wrote: |
Davie Kirkwood is picking away quietly at things up here with the Academy, but then again, the last manager we took out the Highland League wasn't exactly a raging success
Those of certain vintage will know who I talk of.
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The Highland Anelka, filled the team full of highland duds. |
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Andy C
Joined: 24 Jul 2008 Posts: 538 Location: Kirkcaldy
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:26 am Post subject: |
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I think the manager knows that the only way he will please a lot of our fickle fanbase is to play Barcelona-esque football week in, week out dishing out 5-0 hammerings to the rest of the teams in the league while batting away people questioning why we didn't score 6.
The reality of the situation though is that we are completely skint, have to fill our bench up with players that the manager maybe doesn't deem completely ready for the 1st Division and are heavily reliant on the bunch of honest (Aye, honest) professionals that we have at the club just now. The 1st Division is as tight as I've ever seen it and consistency isn't at a premium across the league, not just at the Rovers. The only team that looks capable of throwing some results together is the team that has had money thrown at it, quelle surprise!
To question whether or not McGlynn should still be at the club is ludicrous. He's improved us as much as any other manager in our clubs history has and has somehow given our club back the respectability that was smashed to bits after the Anelka debacle. All of this on meagre budgets season after season.
How do we repay the great job that he has done for the Rovers? By questioning why he is at the club after a dodgy first quarter and talking about bringing in failures from the managerial merry-go-round.
Brilliant! |
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Northern_Rover
Joined: 15 Jul 2008 Posts: 2725 Location: Granite City
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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Think thats a bit harsh on the disgruntled fans Andy C. No one is expecting 5-0 Barcelona performances week in week out though the chance would be a fine thing.
What we would like is some additional thought given to team selections, tactics, substitutions depending on how games are padding out before our eyes. What we are witnessing is a combination of baffling player selections / signings, loan signings, positional swaps and a stale system that is not producing results. I could even take you through the entire warm up routine in my sleep (the only time Alan Walker and Iain Williamson hit the net).
The bench arguement - these are McGlynns players that HE chose to fill the squad at the start of the season. Two of the youngsters have not featured in any capacity in a competetive game and one had a 20 minute appearance before getting sent off and has not featured since. If they are not ready / good enough then the manager has to take the blame I'm afraid they are his choices.
Loan signings - Danny Thompson - why? I rate him from what little I've seen but he is giving us nothing warming the bench.
Stephen Reynolds - see above except I don't rate him.
Dennis Prychynenko - had an absolute shocker at Dens and could (should) have been subbed shortly after coming on - eventually led to Dundees goal. Baffling decision to sign hm and play him ahead of Thompson and the U-19's.
I have seen Brian Reid get the better of McGlynn time and time again and I fear this may well be the case again on Saturday unless we can throw a few surprises down.
A defeat on Saturday would see us having been beaten five times out of six by our nearest rivals in the bottom four - that is relegation form without any shadow of a doubt and no manager of any club at any level would not be under scrutiny from the fans with our current form and record.
And for the record - I voted "stay" but doesn't change my perceptions / observations above.
McGlynn has earned to right to sort this out. But sort it out he must. |
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bigeein
Joined: 09 May 2009 Posts: 1894 Location: windygates
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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you are free to offer any suggestion . BUT TO BE HONEST THESE GUYS ARE ALL WITHIN OUR POLTRY BUDGET
Ollie Williams wrote: | Quote: | GORDON CHISHOLM . JIM DUFFY . JIM MCINALLY . JOCKY SCOTT.
DICK CAMPBELL. |
My head is in my hands. All atrocious managers. | [/quote] |
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Vinnie
Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 8233 Location: None Of Your Business
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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Andy C wrote: | The reality of the situation though is that we are completely skint, have to fill our bench up with players that the manager maybe doesn't deem completely ready for the 1st Division and are heavily reliant on the bunch of honest (Aye, honest) professionals that we have at the club just now. |
Falkirk are skint and have filled their team full of youngsters and are doing very well
Quote: | The only team that looks capable of throwing some results together is the team that has had money thrown at it, quelle surprise! |
See above
Good post northern_ rover _________________ THERES FIVE OF ME |
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Andy C
Joined: 24 Jul 2008 Posts: 538 Location: Kirkcaldy
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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Vinnie wrote: | Andy C wrote: | The reality of the situation though is that we are completely skint, have to fill our bench up with players that the manager maybe doesn't deem completely ready for the 1st Division and are heavily reliant on the bunch of honest (Aye, honest) professionals that we have at the club just now. |
Falkirk are skint and have filled their team full of youngsters and are doing very well
Quote: | The only team that looks capable of throwing some results together is the team that has had money thrown at it, quelle surprise! |
See above
Good post northern_ rover |
Falkirk have been incredibly fortunate with the find of Allagui. They'd be 11 points worse off without the goals that he has scored.
Good youngsters making the difference or a good striker converting half chances?
I agree that McGlynn could do with shocking a few regular starters with a wee benchwarming berth but he also has a responsibility to put who he feels are the best players on the pitch. |
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Vinnie
Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 8233 Location: None Of Your Business
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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Andy C wrote: |
Falkirk have been incredibly fortunate with the find of Allagui. They'd be 11 points worse off without the goals that he has scored.
Good youngsters making the difference or a good striker converting half chances? |
Sorry Andy but one man does not make a team so in that respect its probably bit of both as these youngsters or somebody has to be creating the chances for allagui. _________________ THERES FIVE OF ME |
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Vinnie
Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 8233 Location: None Of Your Business
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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CALDERON wrote: |
Gordon Chisolm - Failed as manager |
Off the top of my head that`ll be the GC that took both Dundee Utd and QoS to the Scottish Cup final and ultimately Europe.
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Quote: | There is nobody out there in our reach who would do a better job. |
Bold statement that
Seeing as you know that,any chance of the Euro lotto numbers for Friday night ? _________________ THERES FIVE OF ME |
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rw89
Joined: 11 Jul 2008 Posts: 2148
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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Glad that it has swung in the favour of McGlynn in the poll. I'm not saying he's perfect, I do believe that if he changes the system then things will pick up for us. Try a 4-3-3 with Williamson up top along with Bairdy and Graham, Walker, Prychychenko/Thomson/Callaghan or ideally Davo and Hamill. Utilise our subs more often.
For me, the route of the problem lies with the fact we are terrible out wide and that we too frequently revert to route one too often down to this. If we played three up top, we'd have more chance to win it if we punted it. But no, really, I think Hammil isn't doing anything out on the wings. He started off well, but sadly is underperforming.
We need change, but not a change in personnel or staff. |
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Vinnie
Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 8233 Location: None Of Your Business
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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We could equally play 3-5-2 which would give width.Our trouble is poor support play from midfield to our front two,that and the total lack of pace.
On the poll.Wouldn`t read a great deal into it, its hardly representative of the support. _________________ THERES FIVE OF ME |
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