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DanElderRRFC · Joined: 02 Aug 2009 Posts: 380 Location: Kirkcaldy

The fact that this is even being discussed is unbelievable.
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Soundwave · Joined: 15 Jul 2008 Posts: 819 Location: Edinburgh

Things might not be great on the park just now, but since Raith were relegated from the Premeir League in 1997, McGlynn has given us:

- a 2nd Division Championship (our 2nd since since 1997)
- our highest place finish
- our first trip to Hampden for a Scottish Cup semi final in 57 years
- at least 3 back-to-back years in the first divison; our maximum stay since 1997 has been 5, in which time the club nearly went bust twice courtesy of 2 failed promotion runs with ridiculous budgets

All this within his first 5 years of management. Now if that can't buy you a bit more time and loyalty from the board, then we are an extremely difficult fanbase to please, but then what's new, that's football fans for you

I'm wondering what exactly we are wanting, as a fanbase. Although I will concede, a subsitution or a change of tactics wouldn't go amiss. Do we want someone who can take us to the 'next level'? well sorry folks, but this is our level.

I'm sure it's the same at Wolves with Mick McCarthy.

rovers4ever · Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 5314 Location: Burntisland

I think we all accept this is our level right now, but we need a manager who is prepared to get tough and drop underperformers (including his favourites).

He also needs to improve his substituting tactics enormously and alter his tactics during games, probe potential weaknesses instead of sticking to the rigid 4-4-2.

I hope JMcG can improve in all three aspects, but given he's been here five years and apart from a brief 4-3-3 spell (Weir, Wales and Smith up front) we've always played 4-4-2, with the same players continuously.

I don't recall him ever changing his tactics apart from going A1 i.e. lumping high balls to Sparky/Marvin in the past. Can't even recall if JMcG has ever made an inspired substitution either. Right now, Thomson would be an upgrade on Walker/Hamill.

A lot for him to improve on. Do this and I'm sure that the fans will start to get off his back.

hellohello · Joined: 14 Jan 2011 Posts: 549

Mcglynn should stay

SACK THE BOARD

lbarnett-bl · Joined: 11 Jul 2008 Posts: 5409 Location: Kirkcaldy

On day 1 I wasn't convinced McGlynn was the right man for the job but that was mainly down to the fact he was an assistant manager and hadn't proved himself as an all out manager but his record stands for itself, okay we are doing crap right now but give him some time to turn things around, as has been mentioned 3 of the 4 next matches are at home and away form has been better than home form on most occasions so what better time to see how things go and maybe re-evaluate if the answer is not too well.

stephen · Joined: 19 Aug 2008 Posts: 370

StarksBarmy · Joined: 03 Apr 2010 Posts: 4029

Obviously McGlynn isn't the greatest tactician... his ability to 'change' the team during a game when things ain't going well needs looked at. He has also made a few baffling 'errors' with his line up, McNeil was clearly not up to it during the run in last year..... playing players out of position (the game at east end stands out like a sore thumb) Trying to fit Campbell and Hill into a successful defensive unit last year was also a mistake in my opinion which upset the apple cart.

On the whole though the guy has worked wonders and if he was to leave 2moro.... is there someone out there who can do a better job with the given resourses? If so, it would be a huge gamble....

I'm not voting because part of me thinks he has taken us as far as he can and perhaps us parting would be best for everyone (McGlynn probably more so) However the grass certainly isn't always greener and for what he has done in the last few years I am forever grateful

Soundwave · Joined: 15 Jul 2008 Posts: 819 Location: Edinburgh

lee166 · Joined: 24 Jul 2008 Posts: 215

While results of late have been pretty poor.Getting rid of J Mg is a definite no no.For( 1),Who would you get as new manager? (2)Anybody coming in would have the same players!While he has his faults,and he would probably be the 1st to admit that,His hands are tied in,that he cannot bring anybody in to better the squad.So lets forget about debating wether he should go or stay and lets get behind him,and the team and hopefully get through this difficult hard time!!!

Jay.P · Joined: 23 Sep 2011 Posts: 138

Tam · Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 5:56 pm Post subject:

John McGlynn's successes are superb achievements, no question.

What he isn't doing is learning from his mistakes, some of which are baffling, many of which have been bizarre. These have all added to frustrating the fans.

I think the majority of Rovers fans can tolerate a defeat if we play well, what we can't tolerate is the pathetic performances of the last quarter of last season and this season as whole so far.

jacobite · Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 347 Location: ma hoose

Graeme_P · Joined: 14 Jul 2008 Posts: 452

I am sure this question is totally borne out of the frustration we all feel as supporters.

Personally I don't think you can argue with his record a great deal.

The positives have already been mentioned (the league, promotion challenge, cup semi final etc) but the negatives of 2 woeful play off performances and only scraping out of the 2nd division need to be balanced against that.

The football has never been good in any season but then again thats the same all through scottish football. Last season the rubbish football was masked by a player with the biggest heart and turn of pace Starks Park has seen for a decade or two.

The frustration is mounting this year because as fans we don't see anything changing. McGlynn was quick enough to change a winning team last year and it back fired spectacularly but won't change a losing team this year.
We are tired of hearing every week that we need a break or need some luck. This builds fans frustrations. Listen to the Dundee interview.
"We don't defend the back post at corners. Dundee get the ball there and get a break and score ...they got the break we didn't.....we just need a break".
NO! We need to defend properly, you need to instil this into the players.
We need to attack teams and create problems. Create chances not wait on lucky breaks.
Along with the poor performances its these type of explanations which irk fans. Most fans would appreciate it if he was just more honest and admitted that individual errors, or selection errors are costing us then dropped those responsible.
The fans are frustrated and craving something other than the same drivel each week. This is amplified by having a raft of youngsters on the bench that we are desperate to see get a chance, desperate to see if the youth system has a gem waiting to shine and I am sure they are desperate to play. The fans rightly or wrongly take the refusal to give them a break as stubborness and as often said "wanting to play his favourites".

I certainly would not sack McGlynn just now. I have always belived managers need time. I do think he needs to find a ruthless streak and shake up the players whose performances are putting him under pressure.

We should appreciate the job he has done, but not forget the break the club gave him in the game, but also realise outwith the Anelka era his record is fairly run of the mill.

bigeein · Joined: 09 May 2009 Posts: 1894 Location: windygates

I think we need to understand that last season was an exceptional season .

we over performed for 3/4 's of the season punching above our weight and catching out teams with how good our squad was last season .

this season all the managers in div 1 are more wise to mcglyns tactics.
add to that loosing key players and no fresh investment to the club has tied 1 arm behing the managers back .

However ,,,, he has had 5 years to blood the youngsters in the youth system ,set out a style and playing system he wants them to play and integrate them into the side . HOW MANY PLAYERS HAVE COME THROUGH THE RANK'S SINCE HE HAS BEEN IN CHARGE Question

We have nothing to loose buy droping one or two players who are underperforming for youth players , in fact i would go as far as saying fans would be more forgiving of bad results if the young guys are getting a chance ...

I myself think we have to give him a bit of respect and more of a chance to try and pull us out of this .
lets review it again in the new year .

I have not voted but if he were to chuck the towel in or be sacked ( god forbid i would'nt like to see that ) here are some managers that are not in the game at the present moment , managers i think the rovers could aford an maybe intrested in getting envolved

shoot me down if you like but here we go .

CRAIG BREWSTER. JIMMY CALDERWOOD. JOHN HUGHES . GORDON CHISHOLM . ERIC BLACK . JIM DUFFY . JIM MCINALLY . JOCKY SCOTT.
DICK CAMPBELL. JOHN ROBERTSON .

THE MAJORITY HAVE MANAGED AT A HIGHER LEVEL AND ARE GOOD OPTIONS .

time will tell . Rolling Eyes

Ollie Williams · Joined: 23 Apr 2009 Posts: 167