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Geordie_Munro
Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 905 Location: Boise, ID.
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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Think of things this way. Craig Wilson turned down a new contract last season. He is now playing at the mighty Forfar Athletic. They are obviously offering more money than us. Where does that leave a manager with around 2 months to rebuild a squad in the summer? Say what you like about players and fantasise about players from Glasgow/Edinburgh playing for the Rovers jersey if you like, but the harsh reality is they only play for the money. We can't match the likes of Forfar in money terms so how badly do you think the managers hands are tied? _________________ No no no no ma wee laddie. |
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AuthorUnknown
Joined: 16 Jul 2008 Posts: 5771 Location: KY1
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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Or maybe Wilson had to settle for Forfar because he couldn't get the sort of deal he expected he would. He was in the press during the close season pleading for a club so he might've ended up at Forfar because it was the only offer on the table in the end, not because they offered more than us. _________________ If I were a fighter I'd probably kick your ass. |
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Marko
Joined: 25 Apr 2009 Posts: 1148 Location: Kirkcaldy
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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Forfar didn't offer more than us, but what they offered was part-time so it possibly worked out better for the amount of hours he would be there.
What we offered him was much reduced from his existing contract, so he thought he was as well going part-time if he was only going to be receiving that full-time. It wasn't as simple as Forfar offering more than us though, where we made a mistake is we never offered him the option of going part-time for the reduced terms we'd offered.
That was my understanding of the situation anyway - it's more or less speculation and could well be wrong before people start queuing up to shoot me down. _________________ "I'd much rather be playing Bayern Munich and be competitive for thirty minutes, than murdering Stockport 8-0 in the Freight Paint-Rolling Trophy or whatever it's called." |
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Cuparman
Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 1876 Location: Irvine
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="R12ATH"]I think McGlynn has been great for our club and turned it around almost single-handed from bottom up. For the record I voted, and I voted for him to stay. He has been our most successful manager of recent time and the work he has done from the youth academy up to first team is first class in terms of professionalism.
What annoys me is he seems so rigid and unwilling to take a gamble now and then to shake it up..He sticks with 4-4-2 religiously, he will stick with Hill religiously, he will move Murray and Ellis around the park to accommodate his favourites, he always waits till its too late to use subs... Its stubborn.. and for the average punter, its frustrating when your team is going through a slump... He did the same last season, we just didnt complain as we were winning most weeks and top of the league..
All I want to see is some change now and then and something a bit radical when required from the man. If we are 1-0 down at home, bring someone on at half time or no later than 60 mins, change the formation during the game to something more adventurous or something.. that is my only beef..[/quot
e]I guess that many share your view. _________________ Born a Rover Live a Rover Die a Rover |
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hatrick
Joined: 16 Jul 2008 Posts: 580
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Cuparman"] R12ATH wrote: | I think McGlynn has been great for our club and turned it around almost single-handed from bottom up. For the record I voted, and I voted for him to stay. He has been our most successful manager of recent time and the work he has done from the youth academy up to first team is first class in terms of professionalism.
What annoys me is he seems so rigid and unwilling to take a gamble now and then to shake it up..He sticks with 4-4-2 religiously, he will stick with Hill religiously, he will move Murray and Ellis around the park to accommodate his favourites, he always waits till its too late to use subs... Its stubborn.. and for the average punter, its frustrating when your team is going through a slump... He did the same last season, we just didnt complain as we were winning most weeks and top of the league..
All I want to see is some change now and then and something a bit radical when required from the man. If we are 1-0 down at home, bring someone on at half time or no later than 60 mins, change the formation during the game to something more adventurous or something.. that is my only beef..[/quot
e]I guess that many share your view. | The problem is Cuparman before kick off on saturday we have 5 first team players out injured,we have nothing left to change it with, we now have 6 out and this is with a squad of 14 players. |
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Cuparman
Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 1876 Location: Irvine
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="hatrick"] Cuparman wrote: | R12ATH wrote: | I think McGlynn has been great for our club and turned it around almost single-handed from bottom up. For the record I voted, and I voted for him to stay. He has been our most successful manager of recent time and the work he has done from the youth academy up to first team is first class in terms of professionalism.
What annoys me is he seems so rigid and unwilling to take a gamble now and then to shake it up..He sticks with 4-4-2 religiously, he will stick with Hill religiously, he will move Murray and Ellis around the park to accommodate his favourites, he always waits till its too late to use subs... Its stubborn.. and for the average punter, its frustrating when your team is going through a slump... He did the same last season, we just didnt complain as we were winning most weeks and top of the league..
All I want to see is some change now and then and something a bit radical when required from the man. If we are 1-0 down at home, bring someone on at half time or no later than 60 mins, change the formation during the game to something more adventurous or something.. that is my only beef..[/quot
e]I guess that many share your view. | The problem is Cuparman before kick off on saturday we have 5 first team players out injured,we have nothing left to change it with, we now have 6 out and this is with a squad of 14 players. |
I cant disagree with that however the moans are not because of this result by itself.
Our record from the last 1/3 rd of last season up till now (with 2 or 3 exceptions) is not so good as it has and could again be again.
There will always be those that are for/against/fence sitters........some look at the results and how we are playing and see little wrong and cant/wont blame anybody for it, others think differently and look at the negatives..........when the negatives out weigh the positives....then imo, something needs to be done........others either disagree or think nothing can be done. To them I would say...........its a coaches job to be able to prepare his team to operate according to the prevailing circumstances and if he is as good a manager as they think..........then how come nothing changes.....team selection/positioning and substitutions are high on the agenda of those criticising JM.....as well as tactics.
For example, all goal kicks aimed at graham, all the crosses from free-kicks-aimed at graham.
Ask yourself when was the last time you saw us use different moves from free-kicks or when there is a throw-in in the oppositions last 1/3rd when there is usually 4 players showing for the ball..........who are joined by at least the same number of defenders...........and we maybe have 1 mid-fielder on the edge of the box!!.....how often is said ball actually delivered into the box?.
Its like we are watching the same film every week....there's no mixing things up.........
and brrrrrrrrrEeeeeeeeeeeAAaaaaaaaaaaaTTTTTTTTTTttHHHHHHHHhh. _________________ Born a Rover Live a Rover Die a Rover |
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Wolfman Jack
Joined: 25 Dec 2010 Posts: 10657 Location: Pawtucket Brewery
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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and brrrrrrrrrEeeeeeeeeeeAAaaaaaaaaaaaTTTTTTTTTTttHHHHHHHHhh. [/quote]
It never leaves you. just like riding a bike. _________________ Hope he's got plenty Rovers action to comment on tonight.... |
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Cuparman
Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 1876 Location: Irvine
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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Wolfman Jack wrote: | and brrrrrrrrrEeeeeeeeeeeAAaaaaaaaaaaaTTTTTTTTTTttHHHHHHHHhh. |
It never leaves you. just like riding a bike. [/quote]
Oh, ah dunno................ah thot ah was havin ma lastgasp
What a way to go..............havin a pop at yer beloved footy team _________________ Born a Rover Live a Rover Die a Rover |
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Tam Moderator
Joined: 06 Jul 2008 Posts: 6454 Location: Kettlebridge
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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Odd thing for Turnbull Hutton to come out with today in the press about the keyboard warriors, when a large amount of the fans in the Main Stand and the Southstand were berating the team and John McGlynn not just on Fantalk?
I think we all know that John works his boots off every single day for the club and has done so since his appointment, BUT he needs to learn from his mistakes and the teams mistakes, surely even Turnbull sees there is no Plan B in his game. |
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Graeme Meldrum
Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 1254
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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I would rather Turnball praised the fans that have signed up for the various members clubs, and give us something positive in the papers. |
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rovers4ever
Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 5314 Location: Burntisland
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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Graeme Meldrum wrote: | I would rather Turnball praised the fans that have signed up for the various members clubs, and give us something positive in the papers. |
That sort of thing wouldn't get printed in the red tops. |
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Graeme Meldrum
Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 1254
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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rovers4ever wrote: | Graeme Meldrum wrote: | I would rather Turnball praised the fans that have signed up for the various members clubs, and give us something positive in the papers. |
That sort of thing wouldn't get printed in the red tops. |
See its on the official page (well done)
I also see the FFP are reportign that there are now internet polls, regarding the managers position, where's the other one then ? |
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Graeme_P
Joined: 14 Jul 2008 Posts: 452
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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As I said in an other post this is just lazy journalism of the worst sort.
The tabloids should have no interest on a poll with 79 votes.
The FFP should be ashamed given the positive things the club are trying to do with Maggies and the wider community.
I don't believe anyone at the club should have given these journalists the time of day. Without the reaction there was no story.
If the FFP wanted to run a story about the clubs poor form or the bad results on and off the pitch fair enough. To use the vehicle of a poll which has interested a tiny (79) minority of fans is just lazy, simplistic, primary school level reporting. If this is how easy it is to earn a wage in local journalism I chose the wrong job. The Editor of the FFP should be kicking these folks backside and telling them to do some real public interest journalism. |
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zicoromaines
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 7609
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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I think we should all get a grip we really are a wee team,with a potential of a max of 3000 to 4000 fans if everything is hunky dory.On a bad season we probably have a hard core support of 800 to 1200 this again depends on results.To assume anything different smacks on delusion.Wehave to live within our means and if that means a split squad of 20 full and part-time players I for one would prefer that.This gives the manager a bigger squad of players to chose from. |
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Marko
Joined: 25 Apr 2009 Posts: 1148 Location: Kirkcaldy
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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zicoromaines wrote: | I think we should all get a grip we really are a wee team,with a potential of a max of 3000 to 4000 fans if everything is hunky dory.On a bad season we probably have a hard core support of 800 to 1200 this again depends on results.To assume anything different smacks on delusion.Wehave to live within our means and if that means a split squad of 20 full and part-time players I for one would prefer that.This gives the manager a bigger squad of players to chose from. |
I agree with everything that you have just said - that whole post is 100% spot on. As long as the club survives whatever level the team plays at we just have to live with. _________________ "I'd much rather be playing Bayern Munich and be competitive for thirty minutes, than murdering Stockport 8-0 in the Freight Paint-Rolling Trophy or whatever it's called." |
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