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Cuparman · Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 1870 Location: Irvine

Are these new rules which we see regularly enforced on TV / sky EPL world wide.

Personally I hope so. Methinks most would agree that stealing yards, kicking the ball away,feigning injuries, what is oft referred to as the “ black arts”.....the list goes on.
We are at a win at all costs mentality and screw the “ sport” side of the game.

I am all for enforcing the new rules should they apply to us as long as the Refs are all consistent......not easy with no var. however possibly the 4th official can help out referees.

I really like the adding on of time for time wasting.
Coaching should be about increasing skill levels, not how to get away with cheating.

My tin hat is on. Surprised

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StarksBarmy · Joined: 03 Apr 2010 Posts: 4024

Makes plenty sense.

Is it actually in force in our league where we usually don’t have a 4th official? If it’s just at the referee’s discretion then we won’t know if we are looking at 5mins extra or 15!

Watching the English Football on TV last couple of weeks, it will be interesting to see if referee’s stick to what they are doing, if so, they will need plenty bottle as situations will arise when a red card needs to be dished out for what was happening dozens of times a game last year…. delaying the taking of a free kick is one, kicking the ball slightly back or standing over the ball as your team retreats back into position is meant to be an automatic yellow.

On a side note, I was interested to read that the 6 second rule for goalkeepers still exist where if they don’t release the ball from hands within the 6 seconds then an indirect free kick is awarded against them…. I presume referee’s choose just to ignore this one?

Heilan Rover · Joined: 24 Dec 2018 Posts: 597 Location: Lorient

100% Agree Cuparman.

The Game is definitely gradually being destroyed with what is effectively "CHEATING".

I am old enough to remember when these arts were only practiced by South American teams. This was then followed by European teams, and then sadly us.

Alas. The beautiful game no more I fear?

Make room in your bunker for one more Cuparman.

embow · Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 5:08 pm Post subject:

Build a bigger bunker guys because I'm coming in to join all of you with a similar opinion.👍
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wellyboot · Joined: 14 Jul 2008 Posts: 2565 Location: Aberdeenshire

It’s the claiming for fouls or throws when it clearly isn’t annoys me. The referee decides not the players. No respect for a referee nowadays unlike rugby.

scotty · Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 9065 Location: Almost Dysart.

I just want to see more cards for players who try to influence the ref in his decision. First time there's a foul and two or three run to the ref to complain, book em all!

Not saying he was biased but I thought the ref gave Hearts very little last night.
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Vinnie · Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 6:52 am Post subject:

Players that high 5/celebrate when their team mate wins a penalty crunches my gears along with everything else thats been highlighted
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embow · Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 9:26 am Post subject:

The only things that you win in football (as far as I'm concerned) is the game and a tackle against the opponent. Anything else is awarded or decided by the officials with the ref having the final say.
Sorry Vinnie but it does my heid in when commentators and pundits witter on about so and so winning a penalty etc.
I do fully agree with you on the high five nonsense or the waving of an imaginary card of whatever colour in the face of the officials.
(Dives into bunker at this point with tin helmet on to escape the flak regarding winning penalties etc.🫣)
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Heilan Rover · Joined: 24 Dec 2018 Posts: 597 Location: Lorient

WillieKirk · Joined: 08 Feb 2014 Posts: 1955 Location: Portobello

Is that your Rolls or the bakers rolls?

But agree - too much harassment by players and officials and in some cases fans of the officials. But - I do like a wee moan at the linesman especially if he is from Aberdeenshire.
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embow · Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:35 am Post subject:

I much prefer moaning at the one from Moray.
Somewhere from the dark side of Elgin, I've been informed 🤔
He's total DRoss!🫣
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TxRover · Joined: 02 Jun 2018 Posts: 3510 Location: North Texas, USA

The ugly reality is it will take time to correct course here…and there will be some outrageous decisions involved, if they move to fix this. The other reality is Scottish football COULD lead the world on this and get publicity/support.

First step:

1) Any and all players who approach a referee after a foul or restart is called/not called, other than the Team Captains and/or the player(s) involved, shall, without exception, receive a yellow card.

2) A retrospective review process will be established for all SPFL games. At a minimum, automatic cameras shall record the entire field of play and environs. Each team may submit up to five incidents during a match they wish reviewed. All submitted incidents, and any others the SFA/SPFL directs be reviewed, shall be reviewed during the two days following the match’s. The review teams shall consist of a senior referee (active or retired) named by the Referee Association, a retired player named by the player association, and a representative of the SFA/SPFL. Upon recommendation of action by two (or more) of the three reviewers, a second such team shall review the action and the recommendation to confirm it within one day. These teams shall be authorised to issue or revoke cards retrospectively for violations of the Laws of the Game. These teams shall also be authorised to recommend actions or fines to a Board created to oversee this process by the SFA/SPFL.

3) “Gamesmanship”; or delaying, advancing or impeding restarts shall be considered an infringement on the game and will be punished in the same vein (i.e. issuance of cards for adjudged persistent “gamesmanship” shall occur at the discretion of the referee).

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Cuparman · Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 1870 Location: Irvine

I agree with pretty much all of the your post Tx, however para 2 would be a non starter methinks purely on the total logistics involved.

I think most people agree that along with the social decline of standards and lack of punitive action against wrong doers it is also sadly reflected on the football pitch.

The SFA have to fully back up our football officials during these changing rules and players must be re- educated by attending a meeting from the Refs so that the players are fully walked through all the changes and re- enforce the need for the changes.

Old habits die hard as the saying goes. Confused

And if showing cards is not working, the instigate plan B.............refs issued with “ cattle prods”.........they’ll get the message then. Wink

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TxRover · Joined: 02 Jun 2018 Posts: 3510 Location: North Texas, USA