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badpress139
Joined: 19 May 2015 Posts: 2620 Location: Glenrothes
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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Still everything to play for as we are ahead of where the club had targeted us this season. Its going to be hard to win the league now as the Arabs will have a spring in their step but they could easily still mess it up.
I actually thought we did start with the right line up, but guess I was wrong. Utd tend to get beat when they lose the first goal and the crowd get on their back. Think the plan was to get right at them from the start, which we did, albeit for only the first 6 mins!!!!
We talk about the luxury of having a number of players in the bench but in some respects this is going against us. What I mean is the we are top heavy with midfielders and IM doesn't know his best midfield. If his hands were forced we would maybe get on better and be more settled. |
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wellyboot
Joined: 14 Jul 2008 Posts: 2567 Location: Aberdeenshire
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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And if the attacking line up had worked what would we be saying? If the early shot hadn’t been cleared off the line then who knows? What if we had played a more defensive line up and still lost would fans be still criticising IM for not playing more offensively?
IM has made some “unusual” choices this season and it has got us into a promotion battle that very few would have expected.
I’m sure there are 8 other sides in the Championship who would love to be in our position just now. _________________ Two pints prick |
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Castle
Joined: 24 Jul 2010 Posts: 4933
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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Of course if we had won we'd be saying different things about the line up but we didn't win. Hey that's football and a manager will live or die by his decisions.
It used to be that a disappointing performance and result in a big game would sour my mood for days but I'm already just about over today's let down.
What does worry me though is that for all the talk of us as a club being ahead of where we thought we would be there is still a decent enough chance that Partick, maybe Morton or god forbid Dunfermline might do us in the playoffs and end up getting promoted. This season could yet become one that we'd rather forget. _________________ Fantalk~Often wrong but never in doubt |
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Northern_Rover
Joined: 15 Jul 2008 Posts: 2725 Location: Granite City
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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Ironically in theory the Pars could stuff us after us having them in our hip pockets.
Partick aren't out the equation for second either. |
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embow Moderator
Joined: 05 Jul 2008 Posts: 13026 Location: Lybster: O'er 'e Ord and far frae Fife
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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Castle wrote: | Of course if we had won we'd be saying different things about the line up but we didn't win. Hey that's football and a manager will live or die by his decisions.
It used to be that a disappointing performance and result in a big game would sour my mood for days but I'm already just about over today's let down.
What does worry me though is that for all the talk of us as a club being ahead of where we thought we would be there is still a decent enough chance that Partick, maybe Morton or god forbid Dunfermline might do us in the playoffs and end up getting promoted. This season could yet become one that we'd rather forget. |
I'm still feeling slightly more positive but appreciate where your coming from. If we can't pick up three points in the next game (one game at a time) then your scenario is very much likely to come to fruition. _________________ Talk on! Talk on!
You'll never talk alone.
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Armagh Rover
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 5742 Location: Nottinghamshire
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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When will Murray learn that Brown isn't a CH and never will be, ok as a very temporary cover in a game if we lose one, kinda like today, l would've thought we'd get at least a draw up there but it wasn't to be, and that penalty was one of the softest I've seen given.
Onwards again though 3 home games to come , what the teamlines will be is anyones guess though |
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CALDERON
Joined: 14 Jul 2008 Posts: 1723 Location: Aberdeenshire
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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:41 am Post subject: |
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Murray made a mess of that. Starting with the lead up to the game, calling United rattled to the national press was a crazy thing to do. Not saying it won them the game, but it wasn't a very wise thing to do a all.
Team selection was wrong, was called out as wrong by fans before the game, was obviously wrong from watching the 4th minute onwards, and remained wrong throughout the 90 minutes.
Still in with a shout, but a minor one. |
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embow Moderator
Joined: 05 Jul 2008 Posts: 13026 Location: Lybster: O'er 'e Ord and far frae Fife
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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:35 am Post subject: |
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CALDERON wrote: | Murray made a mess of that. Starting with the lead up to the game, calling United rattled to the national press was a crazy thing to do. Not saying it won them the game, but it wasn't a very wise thing to do a all.
Team selection was wrong, was called out as wrong by fans before the game, was obviously wrong from watching the 4th minute onwards, and remained wrong throughout the 90 minutes.
Still in with a shout, but a minor one. |
I think that you've pretty much nailed it to be honest.🥺 _________________ Talk on! Talk on!
You'll never talk alone.
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scotty
Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 9065 Location: Almost Dysart.
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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 10:43 am Post subject: |
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CALDERON wrote: | Murray made a mess of that. Starting with the lead up to the game, calling United rattled to the national press was a crazy thing to do. Not saying it won them the game, but it wasn't a very wise thing to do a all.
Team selection was wrong, was called out as wrong by fans before the game, was obviously wrong from watching the 4th minute onwards, and remained wrong throughout the 90 minutes.
Still in with a shout, but a minor one. |
This in spades.
Some players didn't turn up or in certain cases were exposed as not good enough.
I said in the pub at 2.30 when the line-ups came out that Ian Murray had got it wrong in defence and midfield, Turner in the middle and Stanton in a deeper role? Nuts!
Defensively we are usually poor, yesterday we stunk! Both Browns are at best stop-gap defenders, Scott is a midfielder and should only feature in defence in an emergency, James is the weakest link in a rattly defence. This games was crying out for Watson and Murray against the big two of Watt and Moult.
Midfield we started with Stanton deep and Turner in the creative role, neither bloomed. In Muling you have a great deliverer of the ball, Turner does this too, if neither is having a great time then only one is required.
Uptop Zack is getting no change out of 3 big defenders.
The changes when they came were bizarre, like for like in a plan that's not been working.
We are getting roasted in the middle of the park, something needs to change but doe Murray pull the trigger? Naw!
Off comes Vaughan (wtf!) and Rudden to be replaced by Hammy and Smithy, the effect? Nothing changes.
We are under the cosh because Utd are dominating midfield and Brown is swamped in defence by Moult and Watt (see the 1st goal), only Murray and Watson can compete with them and even then not legally in the ref's eyes, although Moult went down like a sack of spuds Watson gave the ref a decision to make.
Easton plays the full 90,yet he's been a virtual nonetity for the most of it. We continue to lump it high and long to Zack or Hammy against 3 6'+ monsters, madness!
Should have started with Matthews at RB (James Brown is P**h), Watson and Murray in the middle, Scott Brown in the holding role with Stants and Easton and Turner in the forward mid roles, Vaughan and Rudden up top.
If it's not working why make like for like changes? Stick 2 big strikers on if you are going to insist on lumping it long and high. Get an anchor in midfield earlier, don't wait until we are 2 down and all but dead. _________________ Competitive goals: Vaughan 18, Easton 11, Hamilton 10, Smith 9, Stanton 7, Mullin 4, Connolly 3, O'Reilly 3, Rudden 3, S Brown 1, Dick 1, Gullan 1, Masson 1, Millen 1, Mitchell 1, Murray, Watson 1, OG's 1, |
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wellyboot
Joined: 14 Jul 2008 Posts: 2567 Location: Aberdeenshire
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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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It’s all “should haves” and “could haves” for some fans.
These keyboard wannabe managers _________________ Two pints prick |
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scotty
Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 9065 Location: Almost Dysart.
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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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I calls it as I sees it.
I'm not the 1st Rovers fan to suggest we are where we are in spite of IM not because of him. _________________ Competitive goals: Vaughan 18, Easton 11, Hamilton 10, Smith 9, Stanton 7, Mullin 4, Connolly 3, O'Reilly 3, Rudden 3, S Brown 1, Dick 1, Gullan 1, Masson 1, Millen 1, Mitchell 1, Murray, Watson 1, OG's 1, |
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Castle
Joined: 24 Jul 2010 Posts: 4933
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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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Welly, it's a forum for discussing Rovers matches. Not much point in it if we can't say who we rather see playing and how the team should be set up.
When you have managed a team that sits second in the league and will probably finish with a points tally that would be enough to be crowned champions in many a season then criticism of that manager is somewhat surprising. That said, over his time as Raith manager Ian Murray definitely gets more leeway than McGlynn did from a certain section of the support. _________________ Fantalk~Often wrong but never in doubt |
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StarksBarmy
Joined: 03 Apr 2010 Posts: 4025
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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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Would love an in depth discussion with my views put across but after a couple of drinks in the house, a few en route then reaching pub at about 12pm, I was too inebriated to fully grasp what I was watching.
I basically supported the yellow against the orange disregarding who was playing and how we were set up, seemed to be mostly us defending 1st half and lucky to only be goal down. Expected a reaction 2nd half but we created very little shooting towards our support. Penalty looked harsh at time, confirmed on highlights, might we have made a late bid as they dropped deeper entering the final knocking of game? Ref put payed to us ever finding out. Highlights however also confirm to me that we were easily 2nd best, disappointing day. |
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embow Moderator
Joined: 05 Jul 2008 Posts: 13026 Location: Lybster: O'er 'e Ord and far frae Fife
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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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Club statement out regarding the throwing of a bottle on to the pitch.
I really hope they can identify the pillock and ban whoever for life 🤬🤬 _________________ Talk on! Talk on!
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Castle
Joined: 24 Jul 2010 Posts: 4933
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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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Doesn't sound like StarksBarmy can remember much about it to be fair Embow.
In all seriousness though let's hope this idiot or idiots are identified and dealt with harshly. Imagine if that glass bottle had connected with Watts head? Every chance the game could have been abandoned. _________________ Fantalk~Often wrong but never in doubt |
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