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Neil M · Joined: 16 Aug 2008 Posts: 2590 Location: Aberdeen

It's forgivable for a manager's tactics to fail for a few games, but John McGlynn's refusal to re-consider, re-evaluate or re-arrange the defensive and sometines baffling tactics that have seen us go from the top of the league to the bottom is just not on. Is there any point playing boring football so as not to lose when we lose nearly all our games anyway?The same could be said for his misplaced loyalty to some players who can't be bothered earning their wages.

John McGlynn never seems acknowledge or address the fact that his team and his tactics are just not working - end of - and never seems to have a new plan or something hopeful to tell us.

JM had five years to get us into the SPL. In 2011 he nearly did. In 2010 he nearly got us to a Scottish Cup Final . But he didn't. Now the key players have gone, the budget has gone, the fans have gone, the opportunity has gone and at some point JM will be gone too. He has tried hard in good faith, but ultimately he has failed. I doubt if he could ever turn things around now - for his reputation as a manager or for the Rovers. The board should try to bring in someone experienced to work with him until the end of the end of the season - an investment that might be less than the cost of relegation- to the very league JM was brought in to get us out of.

Jim Foy · Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:34 pm Post subject:

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GhostZapper · Joined: 26 Aug 2009 Posts: 1213

i thought Davo was superb today, apart from that, we're really toiling at the moment.

What happened to the life and drive and attacking football we saw 2 weeks ago versus Hamilton?

more worryingly, that attacking spark comes from the 4 young guys on loan from Hearts.... i'm seriously concerned when they go back!

sabre74 · Joined: 29 Apr 2009 Posts: 573 Location: inverkeithing

if we keep faith with mglynn we WILL be relegated, cant see any other outcome.
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batross07 · Joined: 24 Oct 2010 Posts: 243 Location: Glenrothes

Well it's a few hours and tins on and I'm still raging about today!! Things have to dramatically change! So far the club and management team seem to blame everything except the actual problem. They blame it on the fans not singing and cheering for 90 mins, they blame it on the lack of breaks coming our way and the lack of funds and players.

What they need to realise is the fans don't turn up and sing and cheer for 90 mins because there's nothing to cheer. The blame lies with the management and of course the players. We're not getting "the breaks" because we're not playing well. There seems to be no desire, commitment or enthusiasm to our play. The big problem is we have no competition for places so the players may have it in their mind that no matter how bad they play they won't be dropped. Take Baird for an example, when did he last score? When did he last put in a good performance? And yet JM doesn't seem to have the balls to drop him or sub him.

We have no real plan b to our tactics. Our plan a is the long ball. Plan b is use plan a until it works. Which I'm yet to see happening. JM needs to get a new tactics book. He is constantly being out managed by opposition.

The tactics for defending corners is a joke too. 11 men in our box is the stupidest thing I have ever seen. I am constantly hearing people, along with me, in the south stand shouting to get someone on the half way line. Without an outlet player we have no chance of breaking against hem, or even just finding a pass to take the pressure off the defence. It allows the opposition to commit as many players forward as they like. So our box is crowded which also means more chance of a deflection which could end up anywhere. And although we have 11 men in our box, how come they scored with a free header today? JM there's no doubting or taking away what you have achieved however your weaknesses are apparent and other managers have become wise to them too. I for one realy do appreciate the work he has done, but if things keep going we will be a second division team, and he way were playin well struggle in that league!

Have to give credit to JM, he actually used his subs! Although he took off the wrong player IMO. But at least he tried.

Basically john its simple......... Get it sorted or get lost!

Tam · Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:54 am Post subject:

Good posts Neil M & batross07

There is nothing left in the tanks ... miserable displays, rank excuses, tactic-less, inept, if I didn't have my season ticket even I wouldn't turn up to watch this crap.

teka · Joined: 15 Jul 2008 Posts: 975 Location: Kirkcaldy

Vinnie · Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:06 am Post subject:

Strange how those who are now saying JM times up are getting an easy ride in comparison to those who were saying the same thing two games or so ago.
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KBID · Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 811 Location: Stirling

Mainy and I were sitting next to each other yesterday, and I echo one of his comments to me from yesterday.... there are only so many times we can play well and not win/lose.

Don't get me wrong, I thought we played well in patches yesterday. The passing was good, the build-up play was there but we just couldn't put the ball in the back of the net... and that is ultimately what wins you football games.

Obviously, the way in which we lost the game was hugely disappointing. A free header from a corner is inexcuseable - whether you're playing in the English Premier League or the Scottish First Division. It bugs me that we lost the game, but it bugs me even more the way in which we lost the game.

As some other folk have said, I thought Davo was excellent yesterday. Again, I echo one of Mainy's comments to me... if Davo had been fully fit all season, we would comfortably be in the top half of the table rather than rooted to the bottom of it.

One other observation I picked up yesterday was the lack of atmosphere around the ground. Maybe it was just because of where I was sitting (South Stand section 1), because admittedly I usually sit towards the back of section 2.
Even still, there didn't seem to be the same positivity around the place as there usually is. Whether that has had anything to do with the last 2 away supports struggling to break 100, our shocking form as of late, the bad weather or maybe even a combination of all of the above, I really don't know.

Either way.... win, lose or draw I will always love The Rovers.
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raith12 · Joined: 26 Jul 2009 Posts: 878

That was brutal sat Im the same as most wont be back until jan 2nd raith v dundee Im not looking forward game though raith resultsare effecting the club and the fans.We were poor worst game this season in my opinon.Mcglynn tactics are wrong and have been for while murray CD not RB has played ellis hasnt been playing in right place ether sometimes mcglynn plays him as LB ellis CD Davidson murray ellis mcgurn williamson baird Donaldson ok sometimes dyer is ok williamson hill Graham are all good players hearts loanees are good players looks like raith are going struggle at bottom 1st divison.Which isnt good.Think its time for mcglynn go.

Graeme_P · Joined: 14 Jul 2008 Posts: 452

I said weeks ago apathy was setting in and now it has well and truelly established itself.

This game was awful. The tactics are the same all the time. Nothing changes and the excuses are always the same.

Luck and lucky breaks have nothing to do with failing to mark runners at set peices. 11 home players in the box defending our corners against 8 Livi players and at least 2 of these were in yards of room every time the ball got played in.
This is just one of the points that is glaringly obvious now.
The others are Baird is not a striker his workrate is great so play him in midfield.
Graham can't jump but is quite good with the ball at his feet. Stop punting it to his head and looking for scraps. That was our sole tactic once we brought him on.

All aspects of the team have imploded at once. The defence has crumbled.
The midfield is still set up with holding midfielders which is a total joke when the need is greater than ever to support mis-firing forwards.

Yesterday my son and I went down early to help with the covers. It made him feel involved and built up his enthusiasm for the game.
If it was not for taking him and his friend I would not be back. Its not hurting the club as we all have season tickets so in a way my conciense is clear.
I simply can't be bothered to watch this dross any more. Next week it will junior football for us and if that catches my sons imagination that may well be where we stay.
I have supported this club for 27 of my 35 years so I am not a fare weather fan but now I can't be bothered anymore.

We are in real danger of going down this year and that would leave us in a worse position that when John McGlynn took over both financially and football wise.

lbarnett-bl · Joined: 11 Jul 2008 Posts: 5409 Location: Kirkcaldy

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lbarnett-bl · Joined: 11 Jul 2008 Posts: 5409 Location: Kirkcaldy

Is the ref thinking of auditioning for Strictly Come Dancing by the way Laughing

CoachBombay · Joined: 14 Jul 2009 Posts: 441

Like I said on another thread, it's maybe not time (yet) for McGlynn to go BUT this can only last so long.

My worry is that the board, considering McGlynns "fantastic" record wont get rid of him until it's too late, maybe not at all.

Did anyone else think that the only threat we posed yesterday was down to the young Hearts kids? We went 1-0 down and he started taking them off? The guys that came on made absolutely no impact.

McGlynn said a few days ago that it's not time to push the panic button. Well, I'd have to disagree. The Ayr match is a must win.
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