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scotty



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few various rumours doing the rounds yesterday regarding the stalling / collapse of this deal (if it has indeed collapsed), most seem to centre around the the Club owner wanting certain unexpected caveats, of course that may or may not be the case but it certainly doesn't look like there going to be a change of ownership at the end of this month.

Still struggle to see how anyone would entertain the idea to buy the team without the stadium at the same time.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I notice the Fife Free Press are running a non story about a non story regarding any takeover Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Armagh Rover wrote:
I notice the Fife Free Press are running a non story about a non story regarding any takeover Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

Reminds me of Pte Fraser in Dad's Army telling Mainwaring of the story of the auld empty barn. The punchline (when he eventually got to it) being..."ach! there was nothing in it!🥺
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2023 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I listened to John Simm's interview on Raith TV today.

I was slightly shocked that he thought we should have many more young players in the squad next season because they cost less than the seasoned professionals who demand more in their contracts???

I have a lot of time for John and all he has done for my club, but, more young players, seriously? Does part of our problem not lie in our physical weakness on the ball? Are the current team not, as the Manager repeats, "To easily bullied off the ball"? Fill our squad with youngsters and we will be easier bullied off the Ball. Surely with our limited budget, what we need is a blended mix of experience and youth. However we seriously ought not to fill our squad with younger inexperienced players simply because we can get more of them for the same money. There is absolutely no football sense in this argument.

I'm sorry John but this is the epitome of "Accountant thinking", and thus far I have respected you for balancing football needs with financial constraints. However, you cannot simply drop the need for experienced, and dare I say, bigger players, just to keep the costs down. This is surely the path to relegation?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2023 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heilan Rover wrote:
I listened to John Simm's interview on Raith TV today.

I was slightly shocked that he thought we should have many more young players in the squad next season because they cost less than the seasoned professionals who demand more in their contracts???

I have a lot of time for John and all he has done for my club, but, more young players, seriously? Does part of our problem not lie in our physical weakness on the ball? Are the current team not, as the Manager repeats, "To easily bullied off the ball"? Fill our squad with youngsters and we will be easier bullied off the Ball. Surely with our limited budget, what we need is a blended mix of experience and youth. However we seriously ought not to fill our squad with younger inexperienced players simply because we can get more of them for the same money. There is absolutely no football sense in this argument.

I'm sorry John but this is the epitome of "Accountant thinking", and thus far I have respected you for balancing football needs with financial constraints. However, you cannot simply drop the need for experienced, and dare I say, bigger players, just to keep the costs down. This is surely the path to relegation?


There you have it in a nutshell.
JS has had the club's interests at heart and he wants to be a good guy but the interview lets slip so more about what's needed (and crucially what we currently lack). John is an accountant and understands business and commerce, sadly football clubs are quite different, if they weren't every club in the world owned by a successful business man would be winning everything.

Rovers need to have a football business plan to help pay for a degree of success on the park, however we need success on the park to seed any future growth first of all. Well unless that is if we can get investors that are confident enough to weigh in, and tbh for that we are still waiting.

Seems to me lots of successful people have put money into football clubs with the expectation that because they are successful because they "know business" then they can make it work out fine, John probably discovered this wasn't the case some time ago and it's only now accepting his limitations and getting round to his exit strategy. And tbh at his time of life I can't say I really blame him.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2023 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those who invest in football aren’t going to walk away with a profit. Low crowds, high wages, agents fees, rising costs are going to hit clubs are our level and below. Scottish football domestically is probably the poorest it’s been for decades and I can’t see how this decline will take an upturn. Can’t blame Sim for wanting out when he can but what happens to our club next is unknown.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kelty Hearts announce that their General Manager, Sporting Director and Manager will be stepping down at the end of the season. Are they heading to Starks in some capacity?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2023 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mckenzie I think is almost a certainty now, but not keen on the other 2 townies, if indeed they are to be involved in some capacity.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2023 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the last post-match-interview, IM alluded to "having an idea what might be causing the players' injuries", but (wisely) declined to speculate on-air. If it turns out to be what I (and others on here) think it might be, the club could have a nightmare on their hands!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neil M wrote:
In the last post-match-interview, IM alluded to "having an idea what might be causing the players' injuries", but (wisely) declined to speculate on-air. If it turns out to be what I (and others on here) think it might be, the club could have a nightmare on their hands!


A strange and intriguing post Neil on the Rovers for sale topic? Care to elaborate?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Long time fan wrote:
Neil M wrote:
In the last post-match-interview, IM alluded to "having an idea what might be causing the players' injuries", but (wisely) declined to speculate on-air. If it turns out to be what I (and others on here) think it might be, the club could have a nightmare on their hands!


A strange and intriguing post Neil on the Rovers for sale topic? Care to elaborate?


The pitch possibly.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think the pitch is an issue here, it's not a massive help but I doubt it's the cause.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teams across the country train and play on these pitches regularly, and don't have the injury problems we do.
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Neil M



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

badpress139 wrote:
Long time fan wrote:
Neil M wrote:
In the last post-match-interview, IM alluded to "having an idea what might be causing the players' injuries", but (wisely) declined to speculate on-air. If it turns out to be what I (and others on here) think it might be, the club could have a nightmare on their hands!


A strange and intriguing post Neil on the Rovers for sale topic? Care to elaborate?


The pitch possibly.


Possibly! Wink at least that was the one that occured to me. He could well have been alluding to other factors though, that few of us here could ever guess. Clearly he was not wanting to kick a hornet's-nest, whatever it was.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2023 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

badpress139 wrote:
Long time fan wrote:
Neil M wrote:
In the last post-match-interview, IM alluded to "having an idea what might be causing the players' injuries", but (wisely) declined to speculate on-air. If it turns out to be what I (and others on here) think it might be, the club could have a nightmare on their hands!


A strange and intriguing post Neil on the Rovers for sale topic? Care to elaborate?


The pitch possibly.


I talked this over with my physical therapist, and he discounted the pitch as a major factor for “soccer”, football for those here. He noted that the lower body injuries he sees rehabbing are very heavily from American Football and Rugby, when played on astroturf. It’s a factor of the players being hit while planted, so the soccer injuries he sees are more knee and related to turning while using too long a cleat for the surface (“catching the foot”) or the players with natural weaknesses.

That’s not to say he’s right, but he is the primary therapist for the local high school athletics department.
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