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ARE WE REALLY ROVERS SUPPORTERS?

 
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Heilan Rover



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:02 pm    Post subject: ARE WE REALLY ROVERS SUPPORTERS? Reply with quote

Are we really Rovers Supporters, or are we simply Rovers Moaners?

The team on Saturday win their first Game in 12 league outings. Surely this Forum should be alive with positive posts from us the Supporters. Yes?

As supporters we all want to boost the team morale, tell them they were so much better than of late, let the team know we appreciated the performance and effort and let them know how we are right behind them and give them the much needed confidence for the next game. Even if we didn't agree with all of that we should at least post something positive to help rebuild the lost confidence?

Hmm. Sadly, not the case though.

I counted the posts after the final whistle against Ayr last week, until mid day last Monday. We had c46 Posts letting the team and Managers know how utterly shambolic they were and how they should be losing their jobs. We were all so good at reducing the team's confidence to near zero.

Compare that to the win against Queen of the South on Saturday. Between the final whistle until mid day today there were only 18 posts to tell the team they did OK! (You better believe this Forum is read by most of the team)

So we are 250% more likely to moan at the team when they do badly than we are to give the much needed confidence and morale boost when they play well. The sad thing is some of you are so far up your sanctimonious backsides in regard to the DG affair, you have forgotten what the word "Supporter" means.

By all means make your views known when the team have underperformed. However, do the team not deserve your same attention when they play well?

Come on. Some credit where it is due. Or of course you can just remain a Moaner where every defeat just adds to your twisted sense of Karma and the team keep loosing which of course is what they deserve post DG ....
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't argue with a single word HR. Thanks for articulating my sentiments.

I can add though, that moaning and negativity have been a characteristic of Rovers "support" for as long as I have been following Raith...... and that is now 60 years!!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Must admit there is a lot of truth in what he says. Well done that man.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't really compare the Ayr and QotS match ad one was away from homr and the other was away.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:52 pm    Post subject: Re: ARE WE REALLY ROVERS SUPPORTERS? Reply with quote

Heilan Rover wrote:
Are we really Rovers Supporters, or are we simply Rovers Moaners?

The team on Saturday win their first Game in 12 league outings. Surely this Forum should be alive with positive posts from us the Supporters. Yes?

As supporters we all want to boost the team morale, tell them they were so much better than of late, let the team know we appreciated the performance and effort and let them know how we are right behind them and give them the much needed confidence for the next game. Even if we didn't agree with all of that we should at least post something positive to help rebuild the lost confidence?

Hmm. Sadly, not the case though.

I counted the posts after the final whistle against Ayr last week, until mid day last Monday. We had c46 Posts letting the team and Managers know how utterly shambolic they were and how they should be losing their jobs. We were all so good at reducing the team's confidence to near zero.

Compare that to the win against Queen of the South on Saturday. Between the final whistle until mid day today there were only 18 posts to tell the team they did OK! (You better believe this Forum is read by most of the team)

So we are 250% more likely to moan at the team when they do badly than we are to give the much needed confidence and morale boost when they play well. The sad thing is some of you are so far up your sanctimonious backsides in regard to the DG affair, you have forgotten what the word "Supporter" means.

By all means make your views known when the team have underperformed. However, do the team not deserve your same attention when they play well?

Come on. Some credit where it is due. Or of course you can just remain a Moaner where every defeat just adds to your twisted sense of Karma and the team keep loosing which of course is what they deserve post DG ....


Including your own post where you labelled them "SIMPLY AWFUL !! "
None of us are immune from criticism nor it seems criticising, that's nothing new.

We Scots are a dour lot, Fifers (renown for their meaness) even more so and after four decades of Following the team I'd say Rovers fans the more so again.
I wasn't exactly gushing in my praise for the team on Saturday but I was one of the 50 or so who stood at FT to applaud them all off the park. And perhaps that is part of the issue with the figures above. Last week a home gate of 1500 with maybe as many as 1250 Rovers fans watched a Rovers team being torn limb from limb and many made their feelings known both at FT and on social media afterwards. In contrast this week you'd be lucky if there were 60 Rovers fans at Dumfries, far fewer (about a 1/10th of last weeks support) to heap praise. In my opinion 46 out of over 1200 isn't that bad, I didn't even post last week as I felt so disgusted I was actually numb. Surely it's better to be passionate enough to get upset at events even if it comes through as negativity than become ambivalent.
The day I lose the passion so much that I don't care I'll either be dead or I'll give up the team I've followed H&A since the 70's.

Andy Mill used to say more than anything he hated the phrase "typical Rovers" almost always used in a derogatory way. He said to me recently "Why is it that as a club when we F*** up we do it on such a spectacular and grand scale?" have to say even he laughed when I said "typical Rovers!" It's what we do, if we are on a good run and get a bigger gate in than usual, that's the day we put in an Ayr Performance. It's ok though, thats the events that give some in the lang toun the most pleasure.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the greatest of respect Scotty, you are missing my point.

I agree, my post after the Ayr Game stated "SIMPLY AWFUL". Why? Because we were!

However, I would draw your attention to the second to last line in my post above.

I am in no way saying we should not be critical when necessary. I am simply saying we should be posting positive comments when the team are winning. I cannot buy the difference between a home and away game's postings given the ability to watch live streaming, or indeed the highlights. Even if we miss both, we know we have won! So a wee bit of equality within our praise and criticism is what I am asking for.

Good for you in making the long trek down to Dumfries in the first place, and for standing to applaud the team off the park. However I have a feeling you specifically were never meant to be the target of my post Scotty.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’m a miserable git but usually try to stay optimistic when it comes to Raith Rovers, pretty tough last few months though and it will take more than a nervy win v a garbage QoS to convince me that we are turning any corner.

I didn’t attend QoS game or even watch so can’t really comment, did we play well though? Or were we lucky QoS are rank rotten? Stats obviously don’t tell the whole story but according to BBC we had 4 efforts on target all game (all 1st half) and three of them were at the goal…the shot on goal, the Matej header and the tap in all in the space of a few seconds!

Sure we had a makeshift team, we dug in, kept a clean sheet…all good but the acid test is this weekend, we will have learned a lot more by 5pm on Saturday
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't worry HR, we'll go on a great run, unbeaten in the league and they will all come out of the woodwork again.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's no doubt that the Rovers support are more cynical than most, but on a forum like this, there's less likely to be the same level of consensus in a defeat than a win, hence the reason there's more debate and difference of opinion.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A victory at Rugby Park, a Challenge Cup final and a league win at Palmerston! Maybe a play-off spot too. Ayr, terrible as it was , as not typical of our "bad form"

We still have Inverness, Arbroath, Partick and Kilmarnock to play. All to play for yet!

Refreshing thread Heilan' Rover! Smile (So I keep refreshing it!) Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of my posts, especially post-match, aim to pick out the positives of whatever happened on the Saturday afternoon.

That objective was extremely difficult to achieve after the Ayr game (which I didn't attend anyway, being out of the country), and so I didn't post. I predicted a win over QOS, but followed up with a less than enthusiastic post about the manner of victory - however, that was in huge part due to the Palmerston pitch, which just gets worse and worse, and its adverse impact on the potential for any entertaining football being served up.

But the positives were there, let's hope we can build our form back and surge into the play-offs on another winning streak. COYR
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all. This is my first post on here and on any social media. I have looked at the site on numerous occasions and have enjoyed the banter. I have supported the team since the early 70s but unfortunately I am unable to go to as many games now as I am caring for my beloved wife. What I will add is that our football team has given me so much pleasure in my life (as well as sleepless nights) but hey, that’s what happens when you support our local team. We will always have good and not so good times, but the important thing to appreciate is we have our love of the game. With what is going on in the world at the moment lets just be happy that we can converse our opinions and are able to watch our team. All the best to all of you.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to social media and, especially, the Fantalk Forum, LP. What you say is very true.
I've been pleased to see a number of new posters on here recently. There seems to be a pattern: reading for a while and then ,one day, deciding to post. That's how I started myself.
It's always good to ''hear'' new voices ,so keep it up, even if you don't get to many games ,these days. There are always the highlights and match reports to comment on!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still a wee bit ambivolent about this season. Last season was great, everything (other than Covid) was on the up and there was a real feelgood factor around the place. Even with the cup win it all seems to have gone.

Usually when the Rovers aren't getting results I get well cheesed off, but these days I dont seem to care as much. I wonder why and it wories me that I'm losing my passion completely. Surely it'd be better to be annoyed and angry than feel disinterested and not care?

I've put it down to a mixture of a few things but a key factor is that if we had gone up last season it would have been with momentum behind us, if we were to somehow manage it now I fear it'd be disaterous next term, and with that in mind as long as we aren't getting relegated who cares?

If I'm honest I didn't enjoy our last excusion to the top flight, the getting there far surpassed the being there for me, that said who am I to pour cold water on the dream of all the younger guys who've never seen us play up there. I'd just like to do it and see progression and not getting pumped each week like that last season up there.

Of course there are other some reasons why my passion for the club have taken a dunt but in general, it's not about the play offs or promotion, I'm more dissapointed about the loss of income from finishing 5th (or worse) than 3rd or 4th. Still the board will have had it all calculated as to what the transfer gamble would cost, I'm sure 2 of the 3 best Accountancy brains this town has spawned since Adam Smith will have it sussed.
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