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Raith v Dunfermline (Classic Top-of-The Table Clash (Part 2)
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Neil M



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2021 12:22 pm    Post subject: Raith v Dunfermline (Classic Top-of-The Table Clash (Part 2) Reply with quote

I thought there might just be enough interest in this game to start a separate thread. Wink

Win it and we will be in a decent position!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lose it and we could be out of the play off positions by next Saturday evening, although that would take quite a turn around in the goal difference. Sorry I'm just a glass half empty type of a guy.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We will need to play for the full 90 mins. The first game at home we were excellent but, switched off for two minutes and failed to get the win we probably deserved. The last game we were torn apart mainly by simple through balls and giving away free kicks in dangerous areas.

I have always had concerns regarding our central defence, Bene & Davo are our weak spot imo, so we need to keep an eye on McManus & Wighton. Although both are not prolific, they have scored goals against us this season. so full concentration is required.

I would love to win but i'd take a draw.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The right attitude is what we need for the Pars game. JMcG must ensure the players have all thoughts of playing poorly in evening games, failing to win consecutive games etc out of their minds . Let the armchair supporters, as we are all forced to be , at present , worry about all that!
Win the Derby ! There are enough players in the squad who know how important it is to do that and can impress that on newer squad members.
If some have ambitions to earn more lucrative deals elsewhere ( and JMcG hinted at that in the FFP ie being on show on TV ) let's hope that works out to our advantage on Friday.
Unless there are new injuries, I expect we will go with the team which started on Saturday. But with Hendry and ,IMO especially Rossco available ,the Pars should find they are up against stronger opponents than last time.
Pars fans of my acquaintance and also some on the other channel ,are not convinced by their own keeper. Therefore, plenty of shooting practice for us this week, daisy -cutters , squigglers and rockets . Brad to keep his nine iron in his golf bag🙄 (per Davie and Niall).
Dan I like a lot , but his dead-ball accuracy at free-kicks has deserted him for the moment and , in the absence of LV , Kai and others need to share those duties.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Return to our surface, several weeks to recover from any Covid related problems and only Vaughan? missing?... surely we will be a different animal than that horrible night along the road.

The Pars boy that is suspended for red at weekend was one of their better performers last time, Murray is out injured too I believe?

Seems strange after being pumped 4 (going on ten) - 1 a few weeks ago but I quite fancy our chances if we stay switched on at the back and donít have one of these mental Ďoffí nights.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another derby off-night would be beyond reproach! Another thrashing by them would be totally unacceptable and would damage viewings. All fans of all teams want wins in derby games and players who don't get that should maybe take up ten-pin-bowling instead!

On the other hand, a win for us by two or more goals and THAT thrashing at East End park will be forgotten about by BOTH sets of fans!

It's doable if their keeper is wobbly and our squad is strong - if John and Paul have it instilled in them to leave absolutely nothing to chance. We did it in the cup a while back, with a much weaker squad and we would have done it at home the last time - if we hadn't switched off - literally for two minutes! A convincing win for us would give us a points-cushion, boost or goal difference and create some momentum. A second place finish would suddenly become more of a realistic prospect.

If we really do see Vaughn, I reckon it would only be a token run-out, a late sub maybe, if he does feature at all.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neil M wrote:
If we really do see Vaughn, I reckon it would only be a token run-out, a late sub maybe, if he does feature at all.


I think Vaughanís talismanic role is pretty much gone now, after a few mundane appearances. Until he shows some of the old verve, there seems more of a resignation to the fact that it appears (so far, unfortunately) he is not what he once was.

A Vaughan appearance would be truly pointless if it was less than a good 20 minute plus spell, however heís shown no indication of his old ability to turn a game yet, and thus there is no call for it in a match versus what is likely one of the playoff teams in this league.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another Lewie Vaughan hat trick would not go amiss, just like last year's cup game.😉
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

embow wrote:
Another Lewie Vaughan hat trick would not go amiss, just like last year's cup game.😉

January 2019 embow and you can watch the highlights right now. Smile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IszMCdA-qI&ab_channel=RaithTV
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tx , you seem to be unfairly harsh on a Rovers hero.
Yes, the previous times that he came back from serious injury, Lewis hit the ground running. But that was him performing way above expectations after lengthy periods without playing.
It's slightly different on this occasion ,but that's more the norm.
In an ideal world, LV would be back building up game time , confidence and sharpness in second string/ reserve team , but we don't have one. This shorter season , also, does not help.
We can't expect too much from him , too soon.
But write him off at your peril , he's a very talented guy.
[ I'm posting this as a direct response to Tx Rovers' disappointingly dismissive one and not in the context of Friday's game , re which we have no way of knowing if he will play any part . At present , I am assuming that he won't play any ]
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree 100% Franco. If anyone has the determination and will-power to make a full comeback, that would be Lewie! He needs time to build up, through no fault of his own. Of course we don't know that for sure that he will get back to being the player that he was before - but if he can, he most certainly will. Agree though - that any period of play against the Pars would be risky, because of the pressure to do something.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Biggles wrote:
embow wrote:
Another Lewie Vaughan hat trick would not go amiss, just like last year's cup game.😉

January 2019 embow and you can watch the highlights right now. Smile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IszMCdA-qI&ab_channel=RaithTV

Of course! 2019!
I'd forgotten we're in 2021 these days!🤭
Goodness, how time flies by🥺
Cheers for the correction, Biggles😊👍
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Franco wrote:
Tx , you seem to be unfairly harsh on a Rovers hero.
Yes, the previous times that he came back from serious injury, Lewis hit the ground running. But that was him performing way above expectations after lengthy periods without playing.
It's slightly different on this occasion ,but that's more the norm.
In an ideal world, LV would be back building up game time , confidence and sharpness in second string/ reserve team , but we don't have one. This shorter season , also, does not help.
We can't expect too much from him , too soon.
But write him off at your peril , he's a very talented guy.
[ I'm posting this as a direct response to Tx Rovers' disappointingly dismissive one and not in the context of Friday's game , re which we have no way of knowing if he will play any part . At present , I am assuming that he won't play any ]


I disagree, and don't feel I was being harsh, but simply realistic. He returned from injury and played a couple of games as a near ghost. Was he rushed back too quickly, and is that why he's lame again? Or is he simply now a bridge too far...

I love Lewis Vaughan, and certainly hope he can return, but he's a spot on the team that simply isn't producing right now, and has shown little inclination to indicate it will change anytime soon. There is a time for a very coll and calculating decision to be made coming up, and I certainly hope Rovers fans have steeled themselves for the very real possibility that LV may move on. It would delight me for Lewis to reappear at full tilt, swerving among the unwashed, and hitting the corners again...but...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both sides of the argument are fair. Lewis must have amazing mental strength to keep coming back but has this been one injury too far?

Two or three 1st team games being thrown in at deep end doesnít answer the question though. Lewis needs time, his body needs time, you simply canít be out all this time with three serious knee injuries and not suffer from lack of match fitness then you have to learn to trust your body again before you can commit that 100%.

I have a Sevco supporting friend who constantly tells me that Durrant and Mols were up there with Gazza and Laudrup as the most talented players he has ever seen live....both suffered ACL injuries...neither got back anywhere near what they were, we never got to see if Durrant would go on to be a Scotland ílegendí, it really is horrible to see. Taking away one or two % pace and one or two % mobility from an attack minded player makes all the difference in professional football...we all hope this doesnít apply to Lewis but letís not kid ourselves, THREE of them has to have taken its toll somewhere right?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TxRover wrote:
Franco wrote:
Tx , you seem to be unfairly harsh on a Rovers hero.
Yes, the previous times that he came back from serious injury, Lewis hit the ground running. But that was him performing way above expectations after lengthy periods without playing.
It's slightly different on this occasion ,but that's more the norm.
In an ideal world, LV would be back building up game time , confidence and sharpness in second string/ reserve team , but we don't have one. This shorter season , also, does not help.
We can't expect too much from him , too soon.
But write him off at your peril , he's a very talented guy.
[ I'm posting this as a direct response to Tx Rovers' disappointingly dismissive one and not in the context of Friday's game , re which we have no way of knowing if he will play any part . At present , I am assuming that he won't play any ]


Sorry, Tx, I'm with Franco on this one, believing you are indeed being incredibly harsh. On the handful of occasions Lewis has played this season, he has slotted back in and not looked out of place. In the context of team performances on those occasions, I defy anyone to single Lewis out as a particularly strong or weak performer. That in itself speaks volumes for the guy.

As has already been pointed out, he can't be rushed back, we have no reserve team option - and so he has to be gradually eased back into the 'front line' as it were. That is what's happening, and he is taking matters in his stride.

We all hope to ctach glimpses of his start quality as the rehabilitation gathers pace, but it's extremely unrealistic to have the expectation of him performing at his top level consistently until next season.

I disagree, and don't feel I was being harsh, but simply realistic. He returned from injury and played a couple of games as a near ghost. Was he rushed back too quickly, and is that why he's lame again? Or is he simply now a bridge too far...

I love Lewis Vaughan, and certainly hope he can return, but he's a spot on the team that simply isn't producing right now, and has shown little inclination to indicate it will change anytime soon. There is a time for a very coll and calculating decision to be made coming up, and I certainly hope Rovers fans have steeled themselves for the very real possibility that LV may move on. It would delight me for Lewis to reappear at full tilt, swerving among the unwashed, and hitting the corners again...but...
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