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sonofwallace



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you arent gonna speak any sense dont speak at all and how do you know its the same line up every year if you dont go.You are also showing your ignorance if you say you havent heard of andy chung,joes band or state of emergency to name but 3.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny thing is after I read SOW post I just knew it was Author Itarian with a provocative comment - although I don't know the bands it's because I am off the radar doesn't mean they are not good. And - good on you SOW legendary fund raiser and heart in right place unlike some!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sonofwallace wrote:
First of all the bands get sponsored by local businesses and raith fans groups otherwise the gig wouldnt go ahead.Second of all the numbers are well down from over the years thats for sure and its cos of a whole host of things.Third i am getting stick for doing something not only for the club,charities,good causes and the kirkcaldy public.Which makes me wonder why i bother but when i get everyone involved thanking me and charities thanking me for getting a few quid then thats why i do it.4th and finally AU you are a clown and your attitude is arrogant to say the least.That is the nicest thing i can say about you without getting banned although after reading what you said i may aswell get banned.You surely havent been to any of these gigs otherwise you wouldnt say what you did.Who do you expect me to get U2,BEYONCE and SIMPLE MINDS for a local gig.Every single act who has played at this over years has been brilliant and entertained 1000s of people in that time.Seeing you werent there pop a tenner in an envelope and hand it into starks park as that will cover for the ticket you never bought and the club gets another tenner.It takes me a year to organise this event and its a lot of hard work i just wish it would be appreciated more.




SOW,how does the profit/money raised compare with previous years?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its well down compared to gigs over the years.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was meaning in monetary terms but its okay found that out

2014 about £2500 split between 6 charities
2016 about £2000 split between 2 good causes
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It’s very difficult and challenging to get people to pay and watch local/unsigned musicians, regardless of the good cause behind, so well done indeed to those organising this event. I’ve seen many of these fall down the wayside before the actual day.

In Aberdeen, a city with about 250k people you are lucky to get into 3 figures for a local music night in a central venue, with passing trade and free entry on a Fri/Sat night. Add a door charge and its really difficult unless the acts have a decent local following already.

Don’t know what its like in Fife, but up here the money/crowds very much lie in the tribute band scene just now – that’s what people want to come out and see.

Even a small local gig takes a pretty significant amount of planning etc so I certainly wouldn’t be firing any complaints at the organisers of this at all.

I’d also say its pretty crass to dismiss all local acts as “mediocre at best”. There are some incredibly talented folk out there who are unheard of and vice versa. Local music isn’t everyones cup of tea and that’s perfectly understandable, but I wouldn’t be dismissing the quality on show without any knowledge of who they are at all.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish folk on here would work as hard at fundraisers, in aid of local charities and the club,as the do criticise.

People work extremely hard to support the local community and the club. One of those charities is personally close to my heart, as a family member was effected by this illness.

A minority of fans go well past the extra mile year on year to fundraise. Taking up a lot of there personal time with limited funds or support from anyone else. To stand back and criticise there efforts is nothing short of obnoxious.

Support for the event has perhaps dwindled, however it has still raised of £50,000 throughout its life span. How many fans can say they have raised £500 for the club, never mind £50,000.

I have posted less and less on this chat site, due to the continued negativity from the usual suspects, perhaps the moderators should tighten there belts a bit and implement short term bans. Some of the comments on this thread are bewildering
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The gig has raised about £60,000 over the years with about £10,000 of that going towards reclaim the rovers fund in 2005.There is a long list of charities and good causes on the rock the rovers website which shows how many people we have helped.These include kids charities in turin and rio in brazil who were donated raith rovers football kit from money raised at a gig full of mediocre bands and solo acts.Dennis Alexander and Ally Gourlay who are sadly no longer with us were also involved over the years and they gave up their free time to be there.I know times have changed and i know money is tight and i also know that the crowds have fallen away but those who do come along make it worthwhile.To be criticised for doing this gig etc hurts and whether certain posters on here mean to or not doesnt matter.I also know that a lot of these mediocre bands have managed get many more gigs,events etc from playing at rock the rovers so it cant be that bad.If we can give £250 each to a cancer charity,kids rugby team and kirkcaldy foodbank this year that is great plus bags of food for the foodbank.Anyway i am going to speak to mike at styx to decide the way forward and then will decide about another one after that.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sonofwallace wrote:
The gig has raised about £60,000 over the years with about £10,000 of that going towards reclaim the rovers fund in 2005.There is a long list of charities and good causes on the rock the rovers website which shows how many people we have helped.These include kids charities in turin and rio in brazil who were donated raith rovers football kit from money raised at a gig full of mediocre bands and solo acts.Dennis Alexander and Ally Gourlay who are sadly no longer with us were also involved over the years and they gave up their free time to be there.I know times have changed and i know money is tight and i also know that the crowds have fallen away but those who do come along make it worthwhile.To be criticised for doing this gig etc hurts and whether certain posters on here mean to or not doesnt matter.I also know that a lot of these mediocre bands have managed get many more gigs,events etc from playing at rock the rovers so it cant be that bad.If we can give £250 each to a cancer charity,kids rugby team and kirkcaldy foodbank this year that is great plus bags of food for the foodbank.Anyway i am going to speak to mike at styx to decide the way forward and then will decide about another one after that.


I get the feeling that some posters are suggesting the same effort could generate more money if the concept was to be reevaluated. Maybe more people would be interested if it was once every couple of years. Maybe something else could be done in the opposite years that appeals to a different audience. It does seem a comparatively low outcome for such a lot of effort.

Thats not to criticise you in any way. I am sure the charities, the people they represent and the football club are all grateful for every penny you raise, just a suggestion, that by constantly evaluating the event and looking to change with current trends etc, it may be that you can be even more successful.

Please do not take this as an attack on you or Rock the Rovers. This is meant to be a constructive view from an outsider looking in.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In many respects i agree with what you say and what some others say but until someone comes back to me with other ideas or offers to help then what can i do.I suppose i could always cancel next years gig but whether it came back would be up for discussion.I have the stand up show in march so that would be an option for alternate years but not had a lot of feedback about it yet.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobody is criticising you for doing the gig
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well done to all involved.. £60k for charity over that period is amazing Gav..well done. Raising £10k directly for the Rovers is also great, every additional pound of income is better than nothing.

Its easy to suggest new ideas to raise funds..or suggest ways to improve existing ideas..difficult part is actually getting off your butt and carrying them out. Outwith the various fans groups i dont see much in terms of additional fund raising outwith the regular things like season tickets, merchandise, lotto, 50/50, player sponsorship, etc by anyone else...not criticising, as simply going to a game or buying a shirt or sponsoring a player benefits the club. Everyone is playing their part in someway...just some are doing a bit more than others, i dont think we shojld be criticising anyone who puts money into the club in any shape or form.

To everyone involved...Keep up the good work though i am sure the various charities are appreciative at least.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was good to see photos of the rock the rovers donation to the football club and 3 good causes on all the clubs sites i.e facebook,twitter and instagram.Much appreciated ? Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe you didn't hit the minimum donation criteria for getting publicity?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sonofwallace wrote:
It was good to see photos of the rock the rovers donation to the football club and 3 good causes on all the clubs sites i.e facebook,twitter and instagram.Much appreciated ? Evil or Very Mad

Would’ve thought the whole point of giving to charities was not attention seeking!?
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