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Raith v Airdrie 7/04/24
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CALDERON



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was fairly awful in that first half.

Played off the park tonight, and Murray, again, was light years behind Mccabe tactically.

United will deservedly win the league, but when you look at some of the fantastic situations that were gift wrapped to us, even in recent weeks, it's extremely dissapointing to surrender a title challenge like this.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That 1st half was diabolical.

Both goals similar, attacker asking to be closed down but nah, our defence say go on son, have a pop…

2nd half was more of what we should have seen from the off, tempo, passion…giving the fans something to shout about..

Own worst enemies, if Connolly’s effort off post goes in, we mibee win but let’s face it, we didn’t deserve it for the 1st half.

I don’t get it, the team goes out looking like they expect to lose, the support is silent, almost like they expect the worst. Pissed off.

On the plus side, we shouldn’t fear anybody in the play-off, just need to believe in ourselves more.

MoM? Nobody, but mibee Turner who made a difference.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The manager is totally to blame AGAIN. How on earth could he have been given a three year contract???

The starting eleven were a shambles, tactically awful, the same old crap style of play. And his starting eleven in recent games has been the same... dreadful.

They think its all over... it definitely is now!

Get it sorted board... the manager needs to be told, and we need good players signing for the club for next season.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think your being a tad harsh on Ian Murray there Tam considering we are second in the league with players you obviously don't rate. That said Rhys McCabe I suspect will make it to the Premier League before Murray does with or without Airdrie. He has them playing some really good football.
I said if we out fought them and out ran them we'd win the match but we never came close to doing so in the first half and by the time we changed it the game was more or less beyond us. No idea what our tactics were in the first half except to punt a long ball up to a player who doesn't win or hold onto long balls nearly enough for a player of his physique. Jack Hamilton isn't a target man unless he's in the box. That first has eft me scunnered because I have no idea what Murray's game plan was. I had this hope that after seeing Airdrie beat us four times Murray would have some master plan to at least take the game to them. But we had nothing and Murray had no game plan. He at least made changes for the second half and got some energy and industry into the line up but just exposed his failings with the original line up.
The league campaign is just going to fizzle out now and it'll be tough for the squad to get gee'd back up for the high pressure games of the playoffs.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just throwing a wee thought out!
In the eighties at one point we were well ahead in the promotion race only to fall apart late on and threw it away! The accusation being we couldn’t afford to go up!
Now, given the requirement to install VAR; the likelihood of having to change the playing surface (capital costs and loss of revenue); the need to strengthen the squad on higher wages; and the fact it is all happening a year or two ahead of schedule - could there be a measure of ‘we’re not ready to go up yet!’?
I’m not accusing anyone or group of throwing games etc but could there be an underlying doubt permeating behind the scenes?
I don’t want to start a war of words but would be interested to hear what other opinions are in terms of going up this year.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To state my position, I have enjoyed most of this season and don’t mind not winning the league but it would be fantastic to do so! It’s still great to be guaranteed a playoff place and most likely a second place.
What upsets me is how the fall from title winners position has come about.
It’s the way we have not appeared to have learned from one game to the next about certain tactics - easy example - closing players down as they run into the box? How many long range goals have we conceded against different teams this year?
It’s the random selections and substitutions at times - especially in the last month or two.
It’s the strange unwillingness to play certain players even when they played decently when called upon and sit on the bench regularly - Corr, McGill and Vaughan in the last week or two for instance.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Confused
Worst case scenario I think is the costs of promotion in players wages etc and the possibility of us having to lay a new grass pitch which would hugely have an adverse effect on our finances.

This plus more in players/ staff wages and the possibility of immediate relegation at the end of our first season. It all could be catastrophic!! Crying or Very sad .

Who knows? Confused
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing is for certain, Ian Murray hasn't a clue how to play against Airdrie, but they sure know what to do against us.
Highly questionable set up again, I agree that KW & SB doesn't work, Easton is far too easily tamed by them. Regardless of who the target man is if there's nobody within 5-10 yards knockdowns don't work.

Matthews and Byrne were both off it and at one point you had both of them and Broony all in each others way. By all means bring on a center half and slide Broony forward to partner one or the other, but take them both off?

Disappointed? Of course.
Dispirited? A bit
Worried? A damn sight more than I was before.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinky wrote:
Just throwing a wee thought out!
In the eighties at one point we were well ahead in the promotion race only to fall apart late on and threw it away! The accusation being we couldn’t afford to go up!
Now, given the requirement to install VAR; the likelihood of having to change the playing surface (capital costs and loss of revenue); the need to strengthen the squad on higher wages; and the fact it is all happening a year or two ahead of schedule - could there be a measure of ‘we’re not ready to go up yet!’?
I’m not accusing anyone or group of throwing games etc but could there be an underlying doubt permeating behind the scenes?
I don’t want to start a war of words but would be interested to hear what other opinions are in terms of going up this year.


We've just put in 600 new seats in the last week, to replace ones which have been broken for ages.
I don't think that was done for games against Morton and Inverness.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinky wrote:
Just throwing a wee thought out!
In the eighties at one point we were well ahead in the promotion race only to fall apart late on and threw it away! The accusation being we couldn’t afford to go up!
Now, given the requirement to install VAR; the likelihood of having to change the playing surface (capital costs and loss of revenue); the need to strengthen the squad on higher wages; and the fact it is all happening a year or two ahead of schedule - could there be a measure of ‘we’re not ready to go up yet!’?
I’m not accusing anyone or group of throwing games etc but could there be an underlying doubt permeating behind the scenes?
I don’t want to start a war of words but would be interested to hear what other opinions are in terms of going up this year.


Not having it mate, sorry.

Didn’t play at a high level but high enough to know that players’ don’t go out on the park to lose games.

Are you suggesting that the board has at any point suggested to the management/players that we don’t get promoted? That is just mental!

Not arguing that a promotion followed by relegation soon after might hinder us more than help us in the grand scheme but if I knew that we didn’t try to attain the highest position possible at any point then I, like many others, wouldn’t be back until whoever was behind it were long gone!

To sum it up though, non story surely!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Specky Ginger wrote:
pinky wrote:
Just throwing a wee thought out!
In the eighties at one point we were well ahead in the promotion race only to fall apart late on and threw it away! The accusation being we couldn’t afford to go up!
Now, given the requirement to install VAR; the likelihood of having to change the playing surface (capital costs and loss of revenue); the need to strengthen the squad on higher wages; and the fact it is all happening a year or two ahead of schedule - could there be a measure of ‘we’re not ready to go up yet!’?
I’m not accusing anyone or group of throwing games etc but could there be an underlying doubt permeating behind the scenes?
I don’t want to start a war of words but would be interested to hear what other opinions are in terms of going up this year.


We've just put in 600 new seats in the last week, to replace ones which have been broken for ages.
I don't think that was done for games against Morton and Inverness.


That could've been an indirect jibe at DUtd for the loss of 600 tickets 😂😂
Seriously though I just dont think we were ready to go up and maybe a blessing in disguise due to the probable costs involved, we've got a shot at it through the playoffs and who know but I'd rather build a stronger team in the Championship to keep us in it , till were ready to go for it
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Historically, opportunities like this haven't come along very often at all for the Rovers, and a team who finish 2nd and fail to gain promotion don't tend to have a great time the following season.

I'm not doubting the improvement this year, but a blessing in disguise it wouldn't be.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After our previous games against Airdrie , I thought that the lesson of not allowing them to drive through from midfield had been learned.
But ,no, Frizzell was invited to shoot and he took the opportunity brilliantly. So, the reaction was : give him the chance to repeat the trick, and he obliged , with less flair. My impression at the time was that it was the defence which backed off but would need to watch the highlights to see where Byrne and Matthews were.
We did play more like the team from earlier in the season for about twenty minutes in the second half , keeping the ball in the deck with crisp passing , culminating in Aidan's shot off the post . That's the play that took us into the top two , so we should abandon the long ball game that isn't working .
Let's try to find a settled starting team , one with Watson and Murray at CB....and find a place for our top scorer!
Hoping that all is not lost and United's nerves jangle in the last few games. Their run- in isn't straightforward.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinky wrote:
Just throwing a wee thought out!
In the eighties at one point we were well ahead in the promotion race only to fall apart late on and threw it away! The accusation being we couldn’t afford to go up!
Now, given the requirement to install VAR; the likelihood of having to change the playing surface (capital costs and loss of revenue); the need to strengthen the squad on higher wages; and the fact it is all happening a year or two ahead of schedule - could there be a measure of ‘we’re not ready to go up yet!’?
I’m not accusing anyone or group of throwing games etc but could there be an underlying doubt permeating behind the scenes?
I don’t want to start a war of words but would be interested to hear what other opinions are in terms of going up this year.


I mentioned this a few months ago and nearly got strung from the floodlights, now, not sure if it is deliberate or just incompetent management, I have said elsewhere that doing well against United and Dunfermline means nothing if we cannot do equally well against Airdrie, Arbroath and Queens for example.
This propensity for playing Brown at CB is doing my head in, either play Corr or get rid of him and get a real CB in, it has cost us a lot of points this season.
And whilst I appreciate I am one of the older guys on here I do like to consider myself fairly modern and forward thinking but, I just don't go for all this happy clappy social media stuff, you just know it's going to come back and bite you. And what are those goal scorer videos all about, someone at the club needs to grow up and realise their audience is not a bunch of prepubescent teenagers. It is, IMHO unprofessional, there's a right way to get it up teams when you beat them, then there's this stuff we are getting Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Post match interview clears up the Lewis Vaughan situation.
Interview will no doubt not be what people want to hear but there is still a positive upbeat despite everything. Basically as the saying goes.." That's fitba".
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