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RealNotFizz
Joined: 28 Jun 2010 Posts: 1369 Location: Kirkcaldy
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Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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I'm sorry, but that was just awful. WTAF went wrong there?
2-0 up and coasting . . . then! |
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Tam Moderator
Joined: 06 Jul 2008 Posts: 6452 Location: Kettlebridge
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Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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Embarrassing stuff |
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Castle
Joined: 24 Jul 2010 Posts: 4933
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Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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Oh well that's that then.
A team gubbed six nil three nights ago gives us a two goal head start and then turns us over. Once again our complete lack of composure in defending and lack of leadership on the pitch sees us throw away a lead. The team obviously thought they had it won , the fans obviously thought they had it won (singing about winning the league) but nobody told Arbroath.
No idea what the Stanton substitute was all about. Needing a goal? Yeah take off our top scorer who was looking dangerous all game. I sometimes think Murray wants to prove what a tactical genius he is by making an out of left field change. Instead he now looks like a tactical dunce.
Posting this while still raw after an embarrassing result but let's face it, we're not going to win the league and with our defensive frailty and lack of match nous we'll fail in the play offs as soon as our opponents put us under pressure. _________________ Fantalk~Often wrong but never in doubt |
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embow Moderator
Joined: 05 Jul 2008 Posts: 13030 Location: Lybster: O'er 'e Ord and far frae Fife
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Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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RealNotFizz wrote: | I'm sorry, but that was just awful. WTAF went wrong there?
2-0 up and coasting . . . then! |
Basic stuff. Couldn't keep the ball on the ground. Couldn't find a pass to another team mate. Shocking goalkeeping errors. Inability to cash in on a number of chances in the first half. Complacency big time. We're beginning to be found out in that overall we are maybe not just as good as the league position shows. People before have mentioned that all the one goal wins before Christmas papered over a number of cracks. I never believed that but am beginning to change my mind on this. _________________ Talk on! Talk on!
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Castle
Joined: 24 Jul 2010 Posts: 4933
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Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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Meant to add by the time we play Dunfermline next Saturday, Dundee Utd could well be six points clear. _________________ Fantalk~Often wrong but never in doubt |
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embow Moderator
Joined: 05 Jul 2008 Posts: 13030 Location: Lybster: O'er 'e Ord and far frae Fife
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Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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Castle wrote: | Meant to add by the time we play Dunfermline next Saturday, Dundee Utd could well be six points clear. |
I'll suggest that they will be.
This result tonight will have given them a huge confidence boost whereas if we'd won they'd have been under a fair bit of pressure to get a result of some sort tomorrow. _________________ Talk on! Talk on!
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Castle
Joined: 24 Jul 2010 Posts: 4933
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Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Basic stuff. Couldn't keep the ball on the ground. Couldn't find a pass to another team mate. Shocking goalkeeping errors. Inability to cash in on a number of chances in the first half. Complacency big time. We're beginning to be found out in that overall we are maybe not just as good as the league position shows. People before have mentioned that all the one goal wins before Christmas papered over a number of cracks. I never believed that but am beginning to change my mind on this.
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Embow, every win this season has been by a single goal. I've said before that is a incredible stat for team second top by this stage of a campaign. Grinding out narrow wins occasionally is a sign of team that can maybe win a title but they are the only sort of wins we can manage. If you are in a casino and you go on a winning streak you'd be well advised to walk out because eventually the law of odds will kick in and the house will win. Unfortunately we couldn't cash out in the middle December and we've got to stay at the tables hoping the roll of dice is lucky to us every week because we simply cannot keep our heads defensively when under pressure.[/b] _________________ Fantalk~Often wrong but never in doubt |
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StarksBarmy
Joined: 03 Apr 2010 Posts: 4025
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Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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That was a god awful final 30mins.
Supporters….pundits….people watching on TV, whatever, it’s their right to presume a game is done and dusted…. for football players, OUR players? It’s criminal. Not sure what is worse, taking it easy/losing focus to such a degree or being complete bottle jobs’ and not having the mental aptitude? Probably seen both tonight…why not add in our dodgy keeper for good measure?
Sure, Arbroath deserve credit for sticking in there but let’s not kid ourselves on, we threw that away and it was a disgrace.
Easy 2 goal lead v a demoralised, injury plagued, tired, part time side which lost 6-0 the other day and haven’t won since November? *bleep* right off
While I’m not convinced Utd will pick up 6/6 this week especially with a trip to Greenock involved, I couldn’t give a toss right now because based on that tonight, it doesn’t really matter |
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Specky Ginger
Joined: 16 Jun 2012 Posts: 4258 Location: Dysart
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Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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Cuparman wrote: | Anybody know who won the toss?
Did rovers or Arbroath choose direction of play? |
Given that we kicked off (and immediately punted the ball out the park), then I'd reckon Arbroath won the toss and chose to play with the elements in their favour in the second half. _________________ Dougie Hill
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Northern_Rover
Joined: 15 Jul 2008 Posts: 2725 Location: Granite City
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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:31 am Post subject: |
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First eye brows raised at the team selection. Not a single fan I spoke to saw that as a starting 11 given the players available. Murray appears to have a wierd idea of squad rotation which results in a stronger bench than what is on the park. I presume Scott Brown has p!ssed on Murrays chips.
However - having got ourselves into a commanding position and a two goal lead that capitulation was utterly shambolic. Shambolic defending and shambolic goalkeeper. What was Dabrowski doi g at that second goal. He was like a statue stuck in concrete while thecArbroath player had the easiest of nods into the net. The confidence sapped from the team from that moment on.It was like the Hamilton debacle from a few years back you could just see it all coming.
Jim Goodwin must be splitting his sides. |
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embow Moderator
Joined: 05 Jul 2008 Posts: 13030 Location: Lybster: O'er 'e Ord and far frae Fife
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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 7:28 am Post subject: |
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My turn starting match threads is done!
Totally blown out the water and sunk after that result, performance, capitulation, etc. Call it what you want.
ETA
However, having just looked at the front page of the Courier and read the inside piece, all of the above is insignificant to the outcome of the fire in the flat. _________________ Talk on! Talk on!
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red zebra
Joined: 18 Jul 2008 Posts: 2598 Location: Whaur the bridies are
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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:12 am Post subject: |
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Well that performance should finally put to bed all that chat of winning this league
Our game management has never been particularly successful and recruitment has been imbalanced a bit like McGlynn signing all those forwards, we don't have decent cover in defensive positions.
Corr may be young but I think he would still be a better option than Brown at CB.
Can you imagine our back line in the Premier league, we'd get murdered _________________ http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
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Cuparman
Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 1873 Location: Irvine
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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:46 am Post subject: |
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Specky Ginger wrote: | Cuparman wrote: | Anybody know who won the toss?
Did rovers or Arbroath choose direction of play? |
Given that we kicked off (and immediately punted the ball out the park), then I'd reckon Arbroath won the toss and chose to play with the elements in their favour in the second half. |
I thought Arbroath might have won the toss simply coz it would have made sense for whoever won to choose direction of play. Didn’t want to slag the rovers off for choosing to play into wind second half.
No blame therefore for ending up trying to defend our lead.......tbh, I just wanted an excuse to blame rovers for being stupid.......like the stupid way they utterly failed to keep the ball on the deck.
Yet another excellent example of how football, like all things, is governed by your brain.........or as last night yet again proved, no football intelligence with technical skill, is next to useless.
Not heard any interviews yet, but I would love for IM to actually call it for what it’s worth and not blame the wind, but blame the players for their inability to cope and think at the same time. _________________ Born a Rover Live a Rover Die a Rover |
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Specky Ginger
Joined: 16 Jun 2012 Posts: 4258 Location: Dysart
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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 9:16 am Post subject: |
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Cuparman wrote: | Specky Ginger wrote: | Cuparman wrote: | Anybody know who won the toss?
Did rovers or Arbroath choose direction of play? |
Given that we kicked off (and immediately punted the ball out the park), then I'd reckon Arbroath won the toss and chose to play with the elements in their favour in the second half. |
I thought Arbroath might have won the toss simply coz it would have made sense for whoever won to choose direction of play. Didn’t want to slag the rovers off for choosing to play into wind second half.
No blame therefore for ending up trying to defend our lead.......tbh, I just wanted an excuse to blame rovers for being stupid.......like the stupid way they utterly failed to keep the ball on the deck.
Yet another excellent example of how football, like all things, is governed by your brain.........or as last night yet again proved, no football intelligence with technical skill, is next to useless.
Not heard any interviews yet, but I would love for IM to actually call it for what it’s worth and not blame the wind, but blame the players for their inability to cope and think at the same time. |
The wind did whip up a bit more in the second half than the first, but we've played in worse winds at Stark's Park, far less Gayfield.
The most worrying thing about last night wasn't the inability to keep the ball on the deck, it was the mental weakness displayed after we lost the first goal - we were suddenly second to every ball, Arbroath picked up every loose scrap in the middle and much as Dabrowski takes most of the blame for the second goal, the defending for the 20 seconds before it was beyond awful. _________________ Dougie Hill
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CALDERON
Joined: 14 Jul 2008 Posts: 1723 Location: Aberdeenshire
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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 9:33 am Post subject: |
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That's about as frustrating as it gets to be honest. There is such a soft underbelly to this side, as evidenced by the fact we have conceded more goals than the teams currently in 8th and 9th.
Of the many dissapointing aspects, the most was the mentality of the side after Arbroath got back to 2-1. Absolutely crumbled.
We've been handed several fantastic opportunities to really put down a proper title challenge, and are throwing them all away. |
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