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wellyboot



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 6:18 pm    Post subject: Slump Reply with quote

4 defeats in a row, 1 win in 7. 5 points gained out of 18. How do we stop this slump in form?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 6:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Slump Reply with quote

wellyboot wrote:
4 defeats in a row, 1 win in 7. 5 points gained out of 18. How do we stop this slump in form?


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Get a decent goalkeeper.
2. Get a decent defence.

Neither going to happen. We've played our cards on a midfielder we didn't need and a forward that could be an asset but doesn't immediately address where our problems are.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An educated guess would be.......morale and confidence are pretty damn low.

Not being at recent matches I am unaware of how much hassle the team are getting from supporters at the games and or simply those of us that are online supporters ( in the main).

I would like to point out though, that players who are being continually questioned and or having groans and moans directed at them ,will definitely have an affect.

This is the time when all supporters get right behind the team and particularly those at the matches.

When confidence is low, the natural instinct is to hide, not take players on or not go for a shot or side splitting passes. Take safe passes only,ie....pass the buck!!

The TEAM needs the vocal support NOW, whilst morale is low, tackles need to be applauded, attempts on goal needs to be clapped.

Every time a rover gets “ stuck in” those at the match need to get behind the team.
GEE them up, be the “ twelfth” man.

Ins-till confidence in them by vocally letting rip.

Let them know that you will stand by them and be a help and not a hindrance.

We need the players to kick on and we the supporters have to help them in the only way we can.......make noise, lots of noise.

The players are downhearted,but-the supporters at the game can make them believe we are with them.

When things are going badly, it’s the NOISE, constant noise, cheering noise, this will create the right positive atmosphere, the players will react, they will raise their game and they will fight for the club and themselves.

If you are at the game, let them know you are with them.....all the way.

IMHO, if the supporters can lift the players, they will react positively.

Negativity is the prelude to disaster.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well said C

Even factoring in our slump we still just sit 1 pt from the top of league although the Arabs have a game in hand which is away to Ayr and will be played before we meet the Arabs at home in our next league game on Feb 16th

Ayr beat the Arabs,we then beat them in our next home game we,re 2 pts clear at the top same games played….simple eh
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the game in hand not away to Morton?🤔
Ayr are one of five teams, including ourselves, to have all our fixtures completed up to date this far in the season.
This will change after Friday night's cup semi when we will have a game v Partick to be played later in the season.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fixture schedule is showing Ayr v Dundee Utd on Feb 3rd
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vinnie wrote:
Fixture schedule is showing Ayr v Dundee Utd on Feb 3rd

Ok. Thanks for updating me.👍
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

embow wrote:
Is the game in hand not away to Morton?🤔
Ayr are one of five teams, including ourselves, to have all our fixtures completed up to date this far in the season.
This will change after Friday night's cup semi when we will have a game v Partick to be played later in the season.


I could have sworn it was Norton also
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's all semantics.🫣
They play Ayr this Saturday and it's Morton away midweek on the evening of 5th of March.
So in some respects Saturday's game is a game in hand but in reality it's the Morton game.🫣
Ach! I suppose it disnae really matter unless we hurry up and get our derrière in gear. And sharpish!,🥺
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing

Utd have played 21 games and we have played 22 so Utd have a game in hand over us.They play Ayr this Saturday which uses up their game in hand over us and will be on the same number of games played as us when we meet on 16th Feb
Laughing Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vinnie wrote:
Laughing

Utd have played 21 games and we have played 22 so Utd have a game in hand over us.They play Ayr this Saturday which uses up their game in hand over us and will be on the same number of games played as us when we meet on 16th Feb
Laughing Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyways, back to the slump (and not the one in embows faculties Wink )

IM has actual defenders sitting on the bench yet doesn't play them, these are guys he and the backroom team brought into the club to develop. I suggest that, having had such a surprisingly good start to the season, he has decided not to risk that by putting these guys in to aid their development but which could end up with us going on a poor run of form, oh hang on!

With the exception of Stanton and Byrne there is not a premiership quality player in our squad and that is a problem were we to get promoted this season. The other problem is, can the club afford to go up, with all the work potentially required to the stadium. Ripping up a near million pound pitch is a massive hit for the club, not to mention the ongoing costs of maintaining a grass pitch.

I just wonder if Barrowman and co have suddenly realised this and realised what could lie ahead. Having said that, why not play the young lads if that is the case, give them game time and if they develop and show potential, get them signed up for the future.

The Raith rollercoaster during the first half of the season has raised expectations to a level that is unsustainable at the moment and those expectations needed to be tempered and I think this slump will actually do the club good, it's a reality check to show where we actually are and not the pie in the sky stuff of the first half of the season.

It's time for a full reset, club, players and supporters alike, we are not going to win the league, a good playoff place would be success this season and next season the club can build towards winning the league.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So if I’m reading that correctly, the suggestion by RZ is Barrowman and Co have decided to throw the season by not playing the young lads…

Deep breath all, deep breath!

There is no conspiracy to avoid promotion.

There would be no need to rip up the pitch for next year, the ground rules for 2024-2025 are already published and do NOT require only natural grass in the Premiership.

Saying we only have Stanton and Byrne as Premiership quality players and would need a wholesale rebuild is ludicrous. The bottom four to six of the Premiership is generally comprised of teams that would be right at home in the Championship if you dropped a couple of their top players and then made them reduce their squad to 22-25 players.

Remember Hamilton? That was a “top level” team that dropped into the Championship, and sank like a stone. Management is key, and we have a pretty decent team in place.


I happen to think another year wouldn’t be too bad, but jezzzzzzzzz.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two posts from different points of view. agree another year in championship is no bad thing but also agree we could benefit from being in premiership. What I would prefer is a 2-3 league structure playing home and away instead of 4 games against opposition that like us is pretty mediocre at the moment. Would really like to see Corr and Masson given more game time. Play our own players rather than loanees first. I understand there will be clauses aplenty with respect to game time for the loanees or is that a misconception.

Like every trough a crest should follow. Hopefully starting on Friday. I hope IM selects a team that can defend as well as attack.
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