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Castle



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A run of injuries are probably just a case of bad luck or if at the the time the manager is unpopular then it's another stick to beat him with.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hamilton Accies now looking to replace their plastic pitch with grass.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

<www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/mar/15/athletes-higher-pfas-levels-artificial-turf>
A small study granted but if further investigations bear out the same conclusions then it's difficult to see how artificial pitches, in their current composition, can be used anywhere.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Castle wrote:
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A small study granted but if further investigations bear out the same conclusions then it's difficult to see how artificial pitches, in their current composition, can be used anywhere.


Having read the article and being dead against foisting grass pitches on what are realistically poor clubs,I acknowledge that IF said article is indeed accurate and as dangerous as they claim, then it is indeed a” no brainer “ regards going back to grass only.

However, the cost of installing HAS to be funded in such away as to not bankrupt clubs that barely exist as is, from hand to mouth on a monthly basis.
Government funding / interest free loans/ write off taxation and funding from , maybe lottery monies.
The SFA, IMO, cannot simply just demand clubs change and say “ tuff” if yer skint roll: Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a very small study carried out in California where standards of artificial pitches and even the materials could well be completely different from UK standards, and carried out with more than a nod to its potential environmental impact Confused
Imposing grass pitches on small clubs in the UK without a proper health study (not a green war) would likely destroy many small community clubs, destroy the sporting communities that have built up around them and the physical and mental health benefits such facilities provide to the community.
It is also worth noting that this 'study' was carried out on very young children whose skin is still maturing and susceptible to easy damage.
Not wishing to get into politics but I think the USA have got bigger problems than this, perhaps they just need to change the type of material they use for their pitches.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Couldn,t have put it better myself RZ
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to be cynical, but I am waiting for a similar study looking at the chemicals found in fertilisers, pesticides and other chemicals used on natural grass pitches…
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MSU (Michigan State University) has a department devoted to residuals in many commodities including turf grass. MSU is also a leader in turf grass research for sports fields and turf grass.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the problems that I can see for artificial grass in the USA is from having players (especially kids) playing games when the temperature exceeds 90F - artificial grass temps have been recorded as high as 150F in these temperatures. Son works in Frisco TX at a sports research institute. I believe they may also have the type of data you seek TX - his department is in Sports Physiology at Parker so unlikely they will have the info you seek. I will look for a link to MSU.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.canr.msu.edu/news/risk-pesticide-residues
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was/ is there not a belief that synthetic pitches cause more injuries?.

IF this is true, let’s see the proof/ data.!!
I cannot get over the fact that some want grass and many others are happy with synthetic pitches.

I would like to see a cost analysis between the two types of surface and any proof that exists.

Is this just another example of top flight teams keeping lower league teams out of the “ supposedly “ superior big city/ towns private club. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TxRover wrote:
Not to be cynical, but I am waiting for a similar study looking at the chemicals found in fertilisers, pesticides and other chemicals used on natural grass pitches…


Not just on pitches https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c06l7e0edx2o
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cuparman wrote:
Was/ is there not a belief that synthetic pitches cause more injuries?.

IF this is true, let’s see the proof/ data.!!
I cannot get over the fact that some want grass and many others are happy with synthetic pitches.

I would like to see a cost analysis between the two types of surface and any proof that exists.

Is this just another example of top flight teams keeping lower league teams out of the “ supposedly “ superior big city/ towns private club. Twisted Evil


I think that was with the older style artificial pitches from 30-40 years ago, I've played on a modern surface not even as good as ours and taken the odd tumble, never got hurt once.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed RZ............

You just need to look at the number of senior rugby pitches in regular use. You can't tell me that these guys aren't going to pick up serious injuries on a regular basis, if there was very real risk. OK, some resort to wearing leg protection but that is only to mitigate "carpet burns".
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks TO YOU BOTH.
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