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Cuparman
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There was me thinking I am the hardest to please.......not so atm.
Only thing missing yesterday was the final ball and/ finishing.
IM HAD to make changes as he has to give the whole squad an opportunity to fight for a starting slot.
There were plenty of good football throughout, the end result was different from the Peterhead game coz the Albion were a stiff test. We had the vast majority of the ball and created the most over the piece.
Some poorish finishing was down to good defending by the Benos and rushed, under pressure efforts.
By and large I thought we were good. The style of play is excellent, hard press, high work rate all around.
There was only one player who I thought was “ doubtful “ and he was subbed.
Not gonna name him though, publicly naming players at this stage of the season does nobody any good.
The manager knows and it is pretty clear that his standards must be met.
This team put in a huge amount of effort yesterday and should be cut some slack at this stage.
Getting on players backs before a single league game is a good bit immature and does absolutely NO good for the teams confidence.
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Castle
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It seems like Albion were a stiff test but they are also two leagues below us and far stiffer tests are to come in the coming weeks.
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CALDERON
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| Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:34 am Post subject: |
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Dissapointing fayre really, but in the same way Wednesday didn't suddenly make that team amazing, yesterday hasn't suddenly turned them dreadful.
Its highlighted obvious needs for improvement, which the manager publicly recognised post match and is working to rectify. Good interview, no bluster or excuses - an honest assessment of the game which gives me confidence the problems can be addressed. The point about being too nice is something I've felt for a few seasons.
It's absolutely vital to stick with the team and the manager, this isn't going to click overnight. |
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bistogravy
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| Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2022 10:00 am Post subject: |
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I think the shape and tempo were still decent yesterday but we need to add a bit of grit and strength to the spine. We really need another decent centre half, which would free up Brown into the midfield to add some bite and a bigger striker wouldn't go amiss.
Still glass half full.
Hoping for some signing news in the coming days.
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Heilan Rover
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| Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2022 11:02 am Post subject: |
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| CALDERON wrote: | Dissapointing fayre really, but in the same way Wednesday didn't suddenly make that team amazing, yesterday hasn't suddenly turned them dreadful.
Its highlighted obvious needs for improvement, which the manager publicly recognised post match and is working to rectify. Good interview, no bluster or excuses - an honest assessment of the game which gives me confidence the problems can be addressed. The point about being too nice is something I've felt for a few seasons.
It's absolutely vital to stick with the team and the manager, this isn't going to click overnight. |
I agree with all of this C. Good points, and very well made.
I just struggle a bit with the young lads taking crucial penalties? One of whom had his effort saved. This is a cup game where we need the points to progress and get the financial boost that comes with that progression. So these were very important penalties with a very important point at stake.
I'm not sure why the youngsters were allowed to take part in this important task, and I worry what affect that penalty miss might have on young Mahady's confidence going forward? Too much pressure put on young shoulders, no matter how outwardly confident that young man appears to be.
Sometimes young confident players need protected against themselves! |
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Armagh Rover
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| Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2022 11:40 am Post subject: |
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| Heilan Rover wrote: | | CALDERON wrote: | Dissapointing fayre really, but in the same way Wednesday didn't suddenly make that team amazing, yesterday hasn't suddenly turned them dreadful.
Its highlighted obvious needs for improvement, which the manager publicly recognised post match and is working to rectify. Good interview, no bluster or excuses - an honest assessment of the game which gives me confidence the problems can be addressed. The point about being too nice is something I've felt for a few seasons.
It's absolutely vital to stick with the team and the manager, this isn't going to click overnight. |
I agree with all of this C. Good points, and very well made.
I just struggle a bit with the young lads taking crucial penalties? One of whom had his effort saved. This is a cup game where we need the points to progress and get the financial boost that comes with that progression. So these were very important penalties with a very important point at stake.
I'm not sure why the youngsters were allowed to take part in this important task, and I worry what affect that penalty miss might have on young Mahady's confidence going forward? Too much pressure put on young shoulders, no matter how outwardly confident that young man appears to be.
Sometimes young confident players need protected against themselves! |
It was young Coulson that missed the penalty, but a more experienced Brown also missed , we never should've been at the penalty stage in the first place specially against a team from the bottom division, the ref probably cost us yesterday along with not taking the chances created |
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Wolfman Jack
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| Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2022 11:53 am Post subject: |
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| Heilan Rover wrote: | | CALDERON wrote: | Dissapointing fayre really, but in the same way Wednesday didn't suddenly make that team amazing, yesterday hasn't suddenly turned them dreadful.
Its highlighted obvious needs for improvement, which the manager publicly recognised post match and is working to rectify. Good interview, no bluster or excuses - an honest assessment of the game which gives me confidence the problems can be addressed. The point about being too nice is something I've felt for a few seasons.
It's absolutely vital to stick with the team and the manager, this isn't going to click overnight. |
I agree with all of this C. Good points, and very well made.
I just struggle a bit with the young lads taking crucial penalties? One of whom had his effort saved. This is a cup game where we need the points to progress and get the financial boost that comes with that progression. So these were very important penalties with a very important point at stake.
I'm not sure why the youngsters were allowed to take part in this important task, and I worry what affect that penalty miss might have on young Mahady's confidence going forward? Too much pressure put on young shoulders, no matter how outwardly confident that young man appears to be.
Sometimes young confident players need protected against themselves! |
Ross Matthews, who is still a young man in my eyes has (I will refrain from using the word 'missed') has skied a penalty against Hearts and has had a penalty saved against ICT, would I ask him to take another one? Yes I would.
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Gary Parker
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| Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2022 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Heilan Rover wrote: | | CALDERON wrote: | Dissapointing fayre really, but in the same way Wednesday didn't suddenly make that team amazing, yesterday hasn't suddenly turned them dreadful.
Its highlighted obvious needs for improvement, which the manager publicly recognised post match and is working to rectify. Good interview, no bluster or excuses - an honest assessment of the game which gives me confidence the problems can be addressed. The point about being too nice is something I've felt for a few seasons.
It's absolutely vital to stick with the team and the manager, this isn't going to click overnight. |
I agree with all of this C. Good points, and very well made.
I just struggle a bit with the young lads taking crucial penalties? One of whom had his effort saved. This is a cup game where we need the points to progress and get the financial boost that comes with that progression. So these were very important penalties with a very important point at stake.
I'm not sure why the youngsters were allowed to take part in this important task, and I worry what affect that penalty miss might have on young Mahady's confidence going forward? Too much pressure put on young shoulders, no matter how outwardly confident that young man appears to be.
Sometimes young confident players need protected against themselves! |
They're on the pitch therefore they are included in the penalty selection. Would you rather the players were in the original 5 where there is always a chance to recover from a miss or be taking the sudden death penalties? The fact that senior players didn't step up and it was the two young lads speaks volumes. Well done to both of them for stepping up and having a go.
Also noted that our captain yesterday wasn't even there to congratulate or console the players either, just stood in the group. Liam Dick, for all his faults on the pitch was right there with each player as they came back to the group. |
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Heilan Rover
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| Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2022 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Gary Parker wrote: | | Heilan Rover wrote: | | CALDERON wrote: | Dissapointing fayre really, but in the same way Wednesday didn't suddenly make that team amazing, yesterday hasn't suddenly turned them dreadful.
Its highlighted obvious needs for improvement, which the manager publicly recognised post match and is working to rectify. Good interview, no bluster or excuses - an honest assessment of the game which gives me confidence the problems can be addressed. The point about being too nice is something I've felt for a few seasons.
It's absolutely vital to stick with the team and the manager, this isn't going to click overnight. |
I agree with all of this C. Good points, and very well made.
I just struggle a bit with the young lads taking crucial penalties? One of whom had his effort saved. This is a cup game where we need the points to progress and get the financial boost that comes with that progression. So these were very important penalties with a very important point at stake.
I'm not sure why the youngsters were allowed to take part in this important task, and I worry what affect that penalty miss might have on young Mahady's confidence going forward? Too much pressure put on young shoulders, no matter how outwardly confident that young man appears to be.
Sometimes young confident players need protected against themselves! |
They're on the pitch therefore they are included in the penalty selection. Would you rather the players were in the original 5 where there is always a chance to recover from a miss or be taking the sudden death penalties? The fact that senior players didn't step up and it was the two young lads speaks volumes. Well done to both of them for stepping up and having a go.
Also noted that our captain yesterday wasn't even there to congratulate or console the players either, just stood in the group. Liam Dick, for all his faults on the pitch was right there with each player as they came back to the group. |
Sorry all  it was of course Coulson who had his penalty saved, I'm clearly not up to speed with the squad numbers.
However my point GP was that just volunteering yourself as a young inexperienced player should not be enough for such an important game point. You are absolutely right about the senior players not stepping up. Surely the aulder heeds should be stepping in at a time like this and taking the pressure off these albeit keen young lads. As I said earlier, they sometimes need protected against themselves. My point was not that young Coulson had his shot saved, rather what that miss and subsequent loss of a vital point may have done to this young lad's confidence? No disputing the boy's bravery for putting himself forward, however a big question of the senior players on the park for allowing him to take the penalty rather than themselves. These senior players who did not take a kick will not be sitting worrying this morning that they may have cost the team a point. I sincerely hope that Young Coulson has a similar thought line. |
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