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Biggles
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| How can you have a hybrid system when the pitch is hired out in the evenings? |
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badpress139
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I like Stewart petrie but he is unlikely to move to full time football.
Maybe Ian Murray for me, done a decent job with airdrie and I think they will pip the pars and get into the championship. |
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Neil M
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| ho94 wrote: | | If Levein is advising the club I would reckon it will be Naismith and Berra as player assistant manager, or maybe he is looking to get back in and is taking the reigns himself. I would love something that would lift the club and something a big different such as Kevin Thomson and Si Ferry as his assistant. |
No need for a striker then!  |
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Specky Ginger
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One last option being mentioned is James McPake, to almost totally negative reaction on here. I'm not so sure - the guy has some plus points, top of the list being he's honest, he's a hard-worker, and thorough. |
No disrespect, but if the best anyone can say about a manager is that he's hard working and thorough, then we shouldn't touch him with a barge pole. Hard work should be an absolute given and there will be no harder working manager than the guy we've just parted company with 'by mutual consent'.
I'd far rather hear of someone who's deemed to be tactically astute and improves players by his coaching.
Or if we're going down the novice route, someone who commanded the respect of his team mates and taught them good habits.
I remember five years ago a former RRFC CEO telling us we'd appointed one of the hardest working managers in the game.
I rest my case.
In fact the comparisons between Smith and McPake are uncanny.
Both got Dundee promoted in extremely fortuitous circumstances - Smith when the Huns went bust and McPake courtesy of an absolutely obscene offside decision in the playoffs, then were both found to be absolutely out of their depth thereafter.
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ho94
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| Posted: Tue May 03, 2022 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Wolfman Jack wrote: | | ho94 wrote: | | If Levein is advising the club I would reckon it will be Naismith and Berra as player assistant manager, or maybe he is looking to get back in and is taking the reigns himself. I would love something that would lift the club and something a big different such as Kevin Thomson and Si Ferry as his assistant. |
On the basis that Ferry is an idiot, no. |
I was thinking a promising young coach who Thomson wanted at Kelty , who has a bit of personality, knowledge and enthusiasm required. He has plenty of experience in lower leagues and lots of contacts in the game. Not sure why you think he is an idiot. |
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red zebra
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| Posted: Tue May 03, 2022 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Biggles wrote: | | How can you have a hybrid system when the pitch is hired out in the evenings? |
You don't hire it out the nights when training is on, simples 
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Biggles
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| Posted: Tue May 03, 2022 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| red zebra wrote: | | Biggles wrote: | | How can you have a hybrid system when the pitch is hired out in the evenings? |
You don't hire it out the nights when training is on, simples |
But John Sim wants the pitch hired out in the afternoons and evenings. That's why MacDonald was let go and we went completely full time. |
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KirkcaldyRover
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| Posted: Tue May 03, 2022 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Neil M wrote: | Now that the chairman has stepped down and the management team have gone, are the high-profile people who turned their back on the club until that happened going to come back on board? I ain't holding my breath!  |
I wouldn't have a single one of them back. Burnt their bridges as far as I'm concerned when others stuck it through and tried to remedy a toxic situation, admittedly of their own making. |
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red zebra
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| Posted: Tue May 03, 2022 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Biggles wrote: | | red zebra wrote: | | Biggles wrote: | | How can you have a hybrid system when the pitch is hired out in the evenings? |
You don't hire it out the nights when training is on, simples |
But John Sim wants the pitch hired out in the afternoons and evenings. That's why MacDonald was let go and we went completely full time. |
Only the accounts will tell which option is more financially viable
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Vinnie
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Unfortunately the accounts dont show the income from the pitch hire
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stan drew rover
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| Posted: Tue May 03, 2022 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Specky Ginger wrote: | | stan drew rover wrote: |
One last option being mentioned is James McPake, to almost totally negative reaction on here. I'm not so sure - the guy has some plus points, top of the list being he's honest, he's a hard-worker, and thorough. |
No disrespect, but if the best anyone can say about a manager is that he's hard working and thorough, then we shouldn't touch him with a barge pole. Hard work should be an absolute given and there will be no harder working manager than the guy we've just parted company with 'by mutual consent'.
I'd far rather hear of someone who's deemed to be tactically astute and improves players by his coaching.
Or if we're going down the novice route, someone who commanded the respect of his team mates and taught them good habits.
I remember five years ago a former RRFC CEO telling us we'd appointed one of the hardest working managers in the game.
I rest my case.
In fact the comparisons between Smith and McPake are uncanny.
Both got Dundee promoted in extremely fortuitous circumstances - Smith when the Huns went bust and McPake courtesy of an absolutely obscene offside decision in the playoffs, then were both found to be absolutely out of their depth thereafter. |
No worries, I'm not advocating McPake, I'm only saying there are worse choices out there. I'm also using him as an example of how divisive the upcoming choice of manager could end up being, given every fan's perception from a distance of different candidates.
As another example, I now see Laurie Ellis being mentioned. I'm not sure a club legend from playing days would be a smart move (Gordon Dalziel etc), but others may like the notion |
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TxRover
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| Montrose 1-0 Airdrie…Murray looking more possible. |
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Gary Parker
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Talk of a reduced budget isn't surprising to be fair. Attendances are down amongst home fans with a very poor average of 1700 this season and there will be a reduction in away fans too if the Pars leave along with Killie. Its not like they're being replaced by large supported teams either. Then factor in the DG nonsense and the likely incremental outlay to bring in Ross and Gullan (speculating as most transfer deals are paid across the term of the contract) and it really isn't a shock.
Whoever comes in has a good basis of a squad here, but needs to bring in a few of their own to bolster. I can see the loan system being used a lot again this year. |
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Tam
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I don't want Craig Levein anywhere near Starks Park never mind giving advice to the board on who could be the manager.
He is useless! |
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KirkcaldyRover
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| Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 9:38 am Post subject: |
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| Vinnie wrote: | | Unfortunately the accounts dont show the income from the pitch hire |
Is it not the case that the pitch isn’t owned by the club but by a different company so it should show in their accounts, Starks Park Properties I think. The club will get no direct benefit from pitch hire |
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