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bistogravy



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yet to see any suggestions, from the we want change brigade, that inspire or excite - if you want change you must have an idea of who you want to take over?

i think Lewis Stevenson could be a candidate once he finishes his playing career, with an experienced 2nd in command. Probably too soon for him though.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bistogravy wrote:
yet to see any suggestions, from the we want change brigade, that inspire or excite - if you want change you must have an idea of who you want to take over?

i think Lewis Stevenson could be a candidate once he finishes his playing career, with an experienced 2nd in command. Probably too soon for him though.


Check again.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bistogravy wrote:
yet to see any suggestions, from the we want change brigade, that inspire or excite - if you want change you must have an idea of who you want to take over?

i think Lewis Stevenson could be a candidate once he finishes his playing career, with an experienced 2nd in command. Probably too soon for him though.


I for one have absolutely no idea who a good candidate would be as I have never known any managers or coaches.
It is the boards job to find a successor if indeed there is to be one.

I think your logic does not make sense.
Without inside knowledge of professional football coaches how could we know.

You cannot just ring up other clubs asking what they think of so and so.
How well for example do YOU know Lewis Stevenson?
What are the opinions of those that work for him say about him.
What is his track record?
How well is he respected?
Can he motivate?
Is he a leader?
Has he a record of producing or spotting young talent?
The list of questions goes on......
The board have to do THEIR DUE DILIGENCE.
Look at Killy........they were struggling somewhat early doors and their board appointed a successor who , so far, appears to have been a good choice.

Our board need to consider many things IF they indeed opt to bring in a new manager and I have no illusions that that will not be an easy task.

That said, we can only hope they make the right choice should it come.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You forgot the most important factor.
Does he interview well?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A couple of guys who need to resurrect their careers, Torsten Ziegner and Peter Huistra are both free, could we attract managers of their quality, who knows, but why not give them a call?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would love to see Smudger as manager with Berra as his number 2. Time for JMcG to step aside
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It may come to pass that the current incumbents are all we can afford
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Armagh Rover wrote:
It may come to pass that the current incumbents are all we can afford


If that happens, I expect a slow decline. This matter is far from behind us, as the silence of the BoD shows. Unfortunately, they have set up JMcG and PS as the fall guys already, and if they fail to follow through, Iíd expect a slow trickle of issues and revelations to occur. Cynical, yesÖam I happy about it, no.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As you say, AR, that's a factor which will require to be taken into account.
The recently announced sponsorship will have helped but not filled completely the hole in the finances.
Certainly other possible candidates would be interested in their own income but also the budget available to them,
especially the portion left after existing commitments are deducted.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Franco wrote:
As you say, AR, that's a factor which will require to be taken into account.
The recently announced sponsorship will have helped but not filled completely the hole in the finances.
Certainly other possible candidates would be interested in their own income but also the budget available to them,
especially the portion left after existing commitments are deducted.


As I posted earlier, I have no idea what will happen. Budget wise, I do not think that the board members run the club for their own profit.
I like to think they do it more for the club/ community and the satisfaction of doing something good and maybe they are philanthropic .

I must admit, I WOULD love to know which clubs are run profitably and those that are not, just coz am interested.

It would be interesting to see if profitability or loss were reflected in league positions.

I suppose if someone was really bothered they could find out through company house, if that is indeed where that information is available. OR ask HMRC.
Am too lazy myself. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only top flight club to be profitable and in the black would currently be Celtic. I'm pretty sure all others are in debt to various degrees. St Johnston used to be fairly canny with the coin but maybe less so these days. Despite the"riches" supposedly associated with Ross County, they are still in debt.
In times past Aberdeen were one of the thriftiest and well run clubs for many, many years when under the ownership and care of the Donald family with chairman Dick Donald and his board. The board of Aberdeen, at that time for many years, comprised of only three, occasionally four directors when it was very common for other clubs to have six or seven directors.
As for the smaller clubs in the lower leagues there will be a small number living within their means but probably still in debt but at a manageable level.
There may be literally one or two that won't be in debt but I couldn't guess which ones.
Cove? Kelty? are two that might squeeze by without debt.
The idea of directors being in it to make money just doesn't fly. The ones at Rangers and Celtic may pick up some divided on the shares they hold but they are in the boardroom for having a love of the club and crucially, finances should it be necessary to bale the club or act as guarantors to the bank for loans.
That holds good, to be honest, for every club in the country.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has there even been an indication McGlynn wants a new deal here? Maybe he feels the same as many of us, he canít take the club any further and itís time to part company?

I wonder what job Jack Ross is looking to land? Been quoted several times he wants to remain in Scotland, turned down interview at Dundee, missed out on Aberdeen gig, unlikely many vacancies in top flight will show up in near future.. If he is itching to get back into it and wasnít looking for a fortune then there are worse projects in Scottish Football than ourselves

As mentioned, fans can chuck options and suggestions of who we might want til the cows come home but most of us are so far out the loop that itís just suggestions, itís not our job to get the right person in, itís the clubsí.

Stevenson mentioned? I wasnít aware he was even looking to go into coaching/management.

Of recently/soon to be retired players, Steven Naismith (who I personally think would be a good option) is looking to land his 1st management job, Scott Brown too. Charlie Mulgrew is taking his badges and looking to get into management soon. With the right person/people around them, whoís to say none of them could be the answer?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to Embow and starksbarmy.

Good to know and the insights are very interesting

EMBOW, methinks you should audition for Mastermind with Scottish football your chosen subject. Shocked

Your memory is something else. Shocked

I cannae mind who our last manager was. And in the parlance of todayís youngsters.......am NOT EVEN KIDDING . Sad Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cuparman wrote:
I do not think that the board members run the club for their own profit.


You know what they say, how do you make a small fortune out of football.

Start off with a large fortune.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KirkcaldyRover wrote:
Cuparman wrote:
I do not think that the board members run the club for their own profit.


You know what they say, how do you make a small fortune out of football.

Start off with a large fortune.

Surprised

Laughing Laughing .

I do believe you are right. Wink
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