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WillieKirk
Joined: 08 Feb 2014 Posts: 1707 Location: Portobello
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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Echo your thoughts Embow re volunteers.
And Saint Andrews post - very considered and balanced - therefore probably unacceptable to the remaining board - when we have a new Raith Rovers maybe you could be on the board?
As said earlier - feels like a death in the family. I know others feel the same. _________________ Here Wee go again |
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Franco
Joined: 10 Oct 2019 Posts: 961 Location: kirkcaldy
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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SDR, Yours is a very good post. As you acknowledge, we are far past that point (if, in fact ,we should ever have reached that point, given the red flags being waved) of more balanced statements.
It is beyond me as to how even fraction of this damage be rectified. It's incredibly sad that people like Davie Hancock and WJ have felt obliged to walk away and that the whole of the women and girls teams and, presumably, support staff, have been so alienated that they want no link to the name Raith Rovers.
It's just heart wrenching. Neither my son nor I want to end our association with the club but how do we bring this nightmare to an end? ( We didn't go SP yesterday but I have to confess that I tuned in to the Raith TV coverage but only after discussion with my wife and daughter) |
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red zebra
Joined: 18 Jul 2008 Posts: 2439 Location: Whaur the bridies are
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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Vinnie wrote: | Echo your comments embow
DH has been a fantastic servant to the club and knowing DH personally a good spud to boot
Excellent post SD |
Agreed, a nicer man you'll never meet and a lovely family, sad that he has walked away from his other big passion. _________________ http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
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Armagh Rover
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 5399 Location: Nottinghamshire
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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Surely by now Sim realises the enormity of the decision and the financial losses that are following
And all the best Davie in all you do from here on |
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Castle
Joined: 24 Jul 2010 Posts: 4740
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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For what's it worth I'd also like to extend my gratitude to those who have volunteered their time and expertise to the benefit of the club. It can't have been an easy decision to walk away.
A big thank you also to those who have decided to continue to help the club. I'm sure they have had to wrestle with deciding what the right course of action is. In my opinion it is a personal choice that no one can be judgemental about. The poor decisions the hierarchy of the club have made should in no way be reflected on them for without their continued commitment the club wouldn't be able to function. _________________ Fantalk~Often wrong but never in doubt |
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Specky Ginger
Joined: 16 Jun 2012 Posts: 3996 Location: Dysart
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:14 am Post subject: |
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Castle wrote: | For what's it worth I'd also like to extend my gratitude to those who have volunteered their time and expertise to the benefit of the club. It can't have been an easy decision to walk away.
A big thank you also to those who have decided to continue to help the club. I'm sure they have had to wrestle with deciding what the right course of action is. In my opinion it is a personal choice that no one can be judgemental about. The poor decisions the hierarchy of the club have made should in no way be reflected on them for without their continued commitment the club wouldn't be able to function. |
Bang on the money.
And that applies to those who choose to support the players by continuing to attend games. _________________ Dougie Hill
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Castle
Joined: 24 Jul 2010 Posts: 4740
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:19 am Post subject: |
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Indeed SG. I'm now starting to worry that this will be the end of the club. If the people that have walked aren't going to return until Sim is out (which I've heard and read some say) then I fear the club is holed below the waterline. _________________ Fantalk~Often wrong but never in doubt |
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westover
Joined: 01 Jan 2010 Posts: 96
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 10:02 am Post subject: |
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As a life long Rovers' supporter who has actually attended matches for over 55 years, I am deeply saddened by recent events. All right thinking individuals will roundly condemn the horrible crime that is rape, but do right thinking people not also support rehabilitation? Goodwillie has consistently maintained his innocence and perhaps this is why he refuses to apologise. He is not a convicted criminal. He was found against in a civil action on the basis of 'probability'. By definition, does that not mean that there is the possibility that he might not have done it? Only 3 people were present on that fateful night, and, by all accounts, their minds were seriously befuddled by excessive alcohol consumption (I am NOT putting this forward as an excuse, nor is it an excuse in the eyes of the law). He has kept his nose clean for 10 years and has a wife and young family. Along with all victims of rape, I am also thinking of them at this time. The involvement of politicians is predictable (in Sturgeon's case, also hypocritical), but indicative of the calibre of politician so sadly prevalent in the UK at present. Due to the furore which has arisen, I'd have preferred that we hadn't signed the lad. I respect the opinions of all posters (politicians excepted) but I am accepting the Board's statement on the matter. I have the greatest respect for our manager and consider the club fortunate to have his services. I am a septuagenarian and will continue to attend at Starks Park until I die. Rant over-let's get right behind the Rovers! |
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Castle
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 11:23 am Post subject: |
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New statement from the club. Goodwillie won't be selected to play and his contractual position will be negotiated so he can leave.
I wonder if this apology and decision will be enough for those who have walked away? _________________ Fantalk~Often wrong but never in doubt |
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Wolfman Jack

Joined: 25 Dec 2010 Posts: 10019 Location: Pawtucket Brewery
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 11:33 am Post subject: |
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Castle wrote: | New statement from the club. Goodwillie won't be selected to play and his contractual position will be negotiated so he can leave.
I wonder if this apology and decision will be enough for those who have walked away? |
No. _________________ Hope he's got plenty Rovers action to comment on tonight.... |
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Castle
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 11:46 am Post subject: |
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What if they show genuine remorse? _________________ Fantalk~Often wrong but never in doubt |
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TxRover
Joined: 02 Jun 2018 Posts: 2663 Location: North Texas, USA
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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Wolfman Jack wrote: | Castle wrote: | New statement from the club. Goodwillie won't be selected to play and his contractual position will be negotiated so he can leave.
I wonder if this apology and decision will be enough for those who have walked away? |
No. |
I disagree with a flat no, but agree it will be an extended process, and likely require those in power to step down. |
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stan drew rover
Joined: 05 Jun 2017 Posts: 738 Location: Work it out!
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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westover wrote: | As a life long Rovers' supporter who has actually attended matches for over 55 years, I am deeply saddened by recent events. All right thinking individuals will roundly condemn the horrible crime that is rape, but do right thinking people not also support rehabilitation? Goodwillie has consistently maintained his innocence and perhaps this is why he refuses to apologise. He is not a convicted criminal. He was found against in a civil action on the basis of 'probability'. By definition, does that not mean that there is the possibility that he might not have done it? Only 3 people were present on that fateful night, and, by all accounts, their minds were seriously befuddled by excessive alcohol consumption (I am NOT putting this forward as an excuse, nor is it an excuse in the eyes of the law). He has kept his nose clean for 10 years and has a wife and young family. Along with all victims of rape, I am also thinking of them at this time. The involvement of politicians is predictable (in Sturgeon's case, also hypocritical), but indicative of the calibre of politician so sadly prevalent in the UK at present. Due to the furore which has arisen, I'd have preferred that we hadn't signed the lad. I respect the opinions of all posters (politicians excepted) but I am accepting the Board's statement on the matter. I have the greatest respect for our manager and consider the club fortunate to have his services. I am a septuagenarian and will continue to attend at Starks Park until I die. Rant over-let's get right behind the Rovers! |
Well spoken, Westover - very much along the lines of my own views.
But as is being acknowledged by many other posters, it is only a first step on the road back - for any sustained credibility those who made the original decision and then defended it must step away. As supporters, we must surely have faith and trust in our club's custodians - and that, for me, is now impossible when it comes to those four on the board who moved in favour of the signing and the subsequent club statement. |
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StarksBarmy
Joined: 03 Apr 2010 Posts: 3707
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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westover wrote: | As a life long Rovers' supporter who has actually attended matches for over 55 years, I am deeply saddened by recent events. All right thinking individuals will roundly condemn the horrible crime that is rape, but do right thinking people not also support rehabilitation? Goodwillie has consistently maintained his innocence and perhaps this is why he refuses to apologise. He is not a convicted criminal. He was found against in a civil action on the basis of 'probability'. By definition, does that not mean that there is the possibility that he might not have done it? Only 3 people were present on that fateful night, and, by all accounts, their minds were seriously befuddled by excessive alcohol consumption (I am NOT putting this forward as an excuse, nor is it an excuse in the eyes of the law). He has kept his nose clean for 10 years and has a wife and young family. Along with all victims of rape, I am also thinking of them at this time. The involvement of politicians is predictable (in Sturgeon's case, also hypocritical), but indicative of the calibre of politician so sadly prevalent in the UK at present. Due to the furore which has arisen, I'd have preferred that we hadn't signed the lad. I respect the opinions of all posters (politicians excepted) but I am accepting the Board's statement on the matter. I have the greatest respect for our manager and consider the club fortunate to have his services. I am a septuagenarian and will continue to attend at Starks Park until I die. Rant over-let's get right behind the Rovers! |
Too sensible a post, wouldn’t post it on pie and bovril mind, been reading some of it earlier and you would get shot down in pieces…’rape apologist’ seems to be the ‘in’ phrase at the moment :/
I do also believe the CEO (if Val McDermids claims are accurate) and several members of the board need to seriously consider their positions after this fiasco. |
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scotty
Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 8817 Location: Almost Dysart.
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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StarksBarmy wrote: | westover wrote: | As a life long.....! |
Too sensible a post, wouldn’t post it on pie and bovril mind, been reading some of it earlier and you would get shot down in pieces…’rape apologist’ seems to be the ‘in’ phrase at the moment :/
I do also believe the CEO (if Val McDermids claims are accurate) and several members of the board need to seriously consider their positions after this fiasco. |
No consideration required here, in my opinion there is no wiggle room left for maneuvering.
I cannot see existing or new sponsors wanting to deal with the Commercial director knowing how he voted.
Volunteers and fans in general don't want to be associated with the board members who not only appear to have questionable morals but clearly are unfit to take the club forward financially.
They have potentially ruined the club, any salvation can only lay in their complete removal if not from Starks Park then at least from the football club its self, anything less could amount to a long slow death. _________________ Competitive goals: Connolly 15, Easton 6, Gullan 6, Stanton 4, Dick 3, Vaughan 3, Connell 2, Brown 1, Frederiksen 1, McBride 1, OG 1. |
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