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| Castle wrote: | Unfortunately I think we'll have to leave it to the last possible moment before we can start assembling a squad for the next season. It's looking increasing unlikely that football will not begin again this side of autumn. The club have obligations to pay the wages of players under contract and of the staff who are employed behind the scene. No guarantee that the government backed furlough scheme will be extended indefinitely in its current form and I'm sure it wouldn't cover new employees taken on after the restrictions had kicked in.
If I have read the previous posts correctly then we have nine players who are under contract beyond the end of May. I'm struggling to see how we can sign anyone else when they might not be doing anything other than training through June, July and possibly August. |
That was my very thoughts. Once player contracts have expired then there would be no furlough. Can we afford to sign players and pay their wages, i would think not. Very worrying time for all concerned. |
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| Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 11:28 am Post subject: |
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| badpress139 wrote: | | That was my very thoughts. Once player contracts have expired then there would be no furlough. Can we afford to sign players and pay their wages, i would think not. Very worrying time for all concerned. |
Below is a quote from Bill Clark in Rovers Review Bulletin 8.
At this time of year, we would normally be discussing with the management team which players should be given contract extensions and who should be released. We cannot make progress on this at the moment but will have to do so in the coming weeks. We are also not in a position to sign any new players at this stage. Until we know when the new season is likely to start again, we cannot take the risk of adding to our wage bill players who we cannot furlough, and who might not actually play for several more months. This would be financially irresponsible, especially so since supporters have made such fantastic efforts to support the club financially. |
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| Going to be quite awkward telling some that’s them done with RRFC and good luck and telling others that’s them away and possibly done with RRFC but might get a another contract offer if we an afford it and if you aren’t away somewhere else in meantime. What a totally *Bleep* time for everyone |
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Vinnie
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| Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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I thought with the furlough scheme(now extended) you could extend players contracts in the short term even though theres no intention of keeping them in the longer term ?
That way at least players would have some sort of income until furlough ended
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Castle
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| Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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I'd be amazed if the scheme worked in such a manner.
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| Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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Don't know if this clarifies things?
From Chairman's weekly report.
"The Government Retention Scheme (Furlough)
As you know, all of our players and a number of non-playing staff are currently furloughed to the end of May with 80% of their wages being paid by the government. The extension of the scheme to the end of June and now to the end of July means that we are considering furloughing all of our currently signed players to the end of July. This will include players already signed for next season, nine in total. It will also include all those players whose contracts run out at the end of May or the middle of June, thirteen in total. We believe it is only fair to do this in order that all the players who contributed to our success in winning League 1 are assured of an income until at least the end of July. We are awaiting advice from the SFA on the process for extending contracts to allow this to happen. A decision on this will be made as soon as possible. Those players who were on loan to us will have to make their own arrangements with their parent clubs."
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Castle
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| Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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That's excellent. Of course if furlough is extended further it may be that we have to start any season with the squad currently signed but so be it.
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| Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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| embow wrote: | Don't know if this clarifies things?
From Chairman's weekly report.
"The Government Retention Scheme (Furlough)
As you know, all of our players and a number of non-playing staff are currently furloughed to the end of May with 80% of their wages being paid by the government. The extension of the scheme to the end of June and now to the end of July means that we are considering furloughing all of our currently signed players to the end of July. This will include players already signed for next season, nine in total. It will also include all those players whose contracts run out at the end of May or the middle of June, thirteen in total. We believe it is only fair to do this in order that all the players who contributed to our success in winning League 1 are assured of an income until at least the end of July. We are awaiting advice from the SFA on the process for extending contracts to allow this to happen. A decision on this will be made as soon as possible. Those players who were on loan to us will have to make their own arrangements with their parent clubs." |
Cheers embow thought that was the case.Sure I read somewhere that its permitted to extend contracts to allow it to happen you just cant sign someone then furlough
Furlough has been extended to beyond July to September(westminster)but by all accounts at a reduced rate rumoured to be 60%
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| Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Employers have now to contribute a percentage of their employees wage under the extended furlough scheme. |
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| Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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| badpress139 wrote: | | Employers have now to contribute a percentage of their employees wage under the extended furlough scheme. |
From end of June is it not?
No details as far as I'm aware as to what percentage of the 60% they'll have to contribute. Drops from 80% furlough wages to 60% at end of June, if I've followed this correctly.
Mind you I could just as easily be wrong with all of above. 
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Aware the furllough percentage is being reduced,as embow says to 60% I think but not sure if thats been clarified yet.An employee can also work part time for their employer whilst furloughed beyond July if i,m understanding it correctly eg 60% furlough,40% wages worked for
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It may be that with the ongoing and upcoming economic situation that looking at more part time players is the way to go. Could well be that players that were looking to stay full time might well now prefer to play football as a way of supplementing another wage.
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Jack Leitch?
Bit of a strange signing for us if there's truth in it unless certain players (signed or unsigned) are moving on.
Leitch is an attacking midfielder and we already have 3 signed up for next season, his stats for 2019-20 are almost identical to Brad Spencers except that Brad has scored and assisted 1 more than Leitch. He scored a raking drive against us in the 2-0 win up there but he scored only 1 other in the season. I appreciate the argument that in a better side he could give even better returns but that's a gamble.
Unless he is a replacement for someone moving on, or for the yet to sign Matthews or Armstrong then I can't really see where he fits in, I'd far rather we re-signed those 2 we had last season than bring a newbie in. We need some new players but I think in the middle we are more in need of wide men who can fill in at full back if required, I think we have plenty of central midfielders.
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So hacked off with the depressing news on the never-ending saga regarding Hertz & Plastic Whistle.
Probably most of em will be well out our budget but I've been looking on the BBC website at the list of SPL players who've been released and wondered who might be of interest to us fans (this will almost certainly have absolutely no bearing on who the gaffer eventually signs but what can I say I'm bored!).
As fans who would we fancy from the following list of keepers, defenders midfielders and strikers:
GK. Danny Rogers (Ex Aberdeen)
GK. Jamie MacDonald (Ex Kilmarnock)
LB. Calvin Miller (Ex Celtic)
CB. Steven Anderson (Ex St Johnstone)
LB/CB. Richard Foster (Ex Ross County)
RB/CB Marcus Fraser (ExRoss County)
CB Gary MacKenzie (Ex St Mirren)
RW/CM. Louis Longridge (Ex Falkirk) Not SPL but he's available
RW/CM. Blar Alston (Kdy born Ex Hamilton)
LW/ST. Dario Zannata (Ex Partick)
RW/ST. Chris Erskine (Ex Livvi)
RW. Steven Lawless (Ex Livvi)
RW. Drey Wright ((Ex St Johnston)
RM. Danny Swanson (Ex St Johnstone)
AM. Tony Andreu (Ex St Mirren)
ST. Danny Mullen (Ex St Mirren)
ST. Quasi McModo (Ex Ross Co)
With the exception of LL all of these players have been listed on the BBC as released by their clubs, so if it's inaccurate blame aunty.
I wonder if Brian Graham has a relegation release clause? What a signing that'd be!
Personally I'd be over the moon if we somehow got:
Either GK, Ando, Fraser, Alston and Mullen out of that lot. I wouldn't say no to Longridge, Zanata or Lawless either.
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