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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Firstly this deal speculation and conjecture by newspapers and other media sources, is there any concrete evidence anywhere?

Secondly I'd love to get £200,000 or £0.5M but if it’s only £100k then why not? Again this is a figure that has been plucked out of the air by those same people supposedly in the know who that also informed us it’s a done deal. We have no concrete evidence at this moment that it was ever on let alone been completed so why all the knicker wetting about a monetary value that is potentially equally bogus?

Bowie went to an English outfit (with miney to burn) and netted us an undisclosed fee (thought to be a modest £160,000ish) with add ons, Regan Hendry got us the square root of nothing and Vaughan, who is a probably the best player we had would but for injuries likely have been worth more than all of them combined. An injury can rob a player of a career in a moment, is it any wonder that especially with the amount of injuries we accumulate that all parties involved look to cash in sooner than later?

The deal could be nonsense or it could have been concluded and we haven’t heard yet. Likewise if it has been done it could be for any given amount with any given number of lucrative add ins, also it may include the loaning and / or sale of one of their players.

However much we’d like it, we as supporters have no right to know the details any deal anymore than we have the right to know the salaries of players or managers.

IF a deal with Hibs was done and Tait is on his way then £100k with add ons isn’t the worst deal, especially if there’s an initial loan back and if there was to be a further loan or loans (plural) I’d take it gladly.

QotS had a sell on cause to Livvi for Lyndon Dykes, as soon as QPR announced the deal a year ago QotS found the transfer market already knew what they had to spend and set prices and wages accordingly. Is it any wonder that clubs don't want their dealing aired in public?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What the hell, this can't be true surely, a staggering lack of ambition by our greedy club owners if so, more interested in doing up the stadium than putting a decent team on the park, will be so scunnered if this is confirmed


Aye this.

Watching the interview with our CEO and the RAITH acronym you have to question the A-Ambition model if we're just going to offload youngsters for a pittance. We're forever going to be in a situation of not being able to build a team around key players if we just let teams that come sniffing around take them off our hands at the first request and will continue to yo yo between the 2nd and 3rd tier of Scottish football. For all Sim's pie in the sky ideas I'd much rather see a winning team on the park than some poxy 2 storey hospitality suite at the North Stand or some fancy updated portacabins next to the main stand.

We're now essentially in a situation where we're developing a Hibs player for 3 months. Come January we're looking at a potential scenario of Varian going back to Stoke, Poplatnik going back to Livi, Riley-Snow (well who knows), Tait going to Hibs and a crocked Vaughan and whoever else that might be on the treatment table. All the good work and excitement of last season pretty gone.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

scotty wrote:
Firstly this deal is it seems speculation and conjecture by newspapers and other media sources, is there any concrete evidence anywhere?

Secondly if it’s a £100k then why not? Again this is a figure that has been plucked out of the air by those same people supposedly in the know who that also informed us it’s a done deal. We have no concrete evidence at this moment that it was ever on let alone been completed so why all the knicker wetting about a monetary value that is potentially equally bogus?

Bowie went to an English outfit (with miney to burn) and netted us an undisclosed fee (thought to be a modest £160,000ish) with add ons, Regan Hendry got us the square root of nothing and Vaughan, who is a probably the best player we had would but for injuries likely have been worth more than all of them combined. An injury can rob a player of a career in a moment, is it any wonder that especially with the amount of injuries we accumulate that all parties involved look to cash in sooner than later?

The deal could be nonsense or it could have been concluded and we haven’t heard yet. Likewise if it has been done it could be for any given amount with any given number of lucrative add ins, also it may include the loaning and / or sale of one of their players.

However much we’d like it, we as supporters have no right to know the details any deal anymore than we have the right to know the salaries of players or managers.

IF a deal with Hibs was done and Tait is on his way then £100k with add ons isn’t the worst deal, especially if there’s an initial loan back and if there was to be a further loan or loans (plural) I’d take it gladly.

QotS had a sell on cause to Livvi for Lyndon Dykes, as soon as QPR announced the deal a year ago QotS found the transfer market already knew what they had to spend and set prices and wages accordingly. Is it any wonder that clubs don't want their dealing aired in public?


If indeed a deal is done and that is what it is I would say that was crap for our best prospect with years on his contract left
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tait signed a 3 year deal with us, there may well be a clause in that, that determines any transfer away from us.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Critics of the Rovers communication can compare ours with communication from Hibs on this.

Oh! Wait!

What have Hibs said about this? Zilch  far as I can see to date. You'd have thought they'd be wanting to tell the world and its dug  about all of its new deals. However, that's not to say something has maybe been done and is as yet incomplete, for whatever reason, which restricts both parties from going public.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard that the Gullan to Killie move has completely fallen through.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

embow wrote:
Critics of the Rovers communication can compare ours with communication from Hibs on this.

Oh! Wait!

What have Hibs said about this? Zilch  far as I can see to date. You'd have thought they'd be wanting to tell the world and its dug  about all of its new deals. However, that's not to say something has maybe been done and is as yet incomplete, for whatever reason, which restricts both parties from going public.


If its a deal pending approval or anything clubs are right to not announce it. I am surprised it would take this long after deadline closes for anything to be confirmed though.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

embow wrote:
Critics of the Rovers communication can compare ours with communication from Hibs on this.

Oh! Wait!

What have Hibs said about this? Zilch  far as I can see to date. You'd have thought they'd be wanting to tell the world and its dug  about all of its new deals. However, that's not to say something has maybe been done and is as yet incomplete, for whatever reason, which restricts both parties from going public.


Are we not past the time of being complete unless its loans?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

badpress139 wrote:
embow wrote:
Critics of the Rovers communication can compare ours with communication from Hibs on this.

Oh! Wait!

What have Hibs said about this? Zilch  far as I can see to date. You'd have thought they'd be wanting to tell the world and its dug  about all of its new deals. However, that's not to say something has maybe been done and is as yet incomplete, for whatever reason, which restricts both parties from going public.


Are we not past the time of being complete unless its loans?

If the paperwork was lodged before the deadline it can still go through, just takes time to process all the transfers.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FFP reporting it's a 4 year deal to Hibs. It's went from 100k to now an 'undisclosed fee'.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Midfield star Dylan Tait has been the subject of a transfer bid from SPFL Premiership side Hibernian, which has been accepted by Raith Rovers and approved by the football authorities before the transfer window shut last night.

The midfield playmaker has signed a 4 year contract until June 2025 with the Easter Road side. As part of the transfer arrangement Dylan will be immediately loaned back to Raith Rovers until January 2022, and the paperwork for this aspect of the transfer is already underway.

The exact amount of the transfer fee is undisclosed, but there are clauses built into the agreement that will see Raith Rovers benefit as Dylan progresses in his career.

Dylan (19) has made 68 appearances in total for the Rovers, scoring 8 goals, since making his debut at the end of the 2018-19 season away to Montrose in SPFL League One.

He made a further 21 appearances in season 2019-20 as Rovers were promoted as SPFL League One Champions, and then played 36 matches last season as the club made a triumphant return to the SPFL Championship, culminating in a Playoff Semi-Final defeat to Dundee FC.

Dylan started off in the Partick Thistle youth system before moving on to FEFA (the Fife Elite Football Academy) – he signed signed his first professional contract with the Rovers in January 2019 and started as a 1st year Modern Apprentice in summer 2019.
After featuring regularly in matchday squads in season 2019-20, Dylan had impressed with his work-rate, application and commitment and was rewarded with a contract extension in February 2020. In December 2020 Dylan agreed a contract extension through to the summer of 2024.

Dylan was presented with the Malcolm Szpera Award for Endeavour in season 2019-20, and the award for Young Player of the Year at the end of season 2020-21.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, hopefully this puts paid to any more chat about ambition from the board. Genuinely ambitious clubs don't sell their best young talent to the first suitor, after learning that their best player is out for at least the season.

If Raith Rovers are only ever going to be a yo yo club between this league and league 1, I don't have a huge problem with that. However don't spin us yarns about ambition and all the great things going on off the pitch.

Talk is cheap, as we are now learning.

There obviously a chance that the club desperately need the money, but given the fundraising, handouts and increased prize money of the last 12 months, that would be gross negligence so I'd like to think that isn't the case.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acht well, Sim will probably invest this money into Starks Park Properties to go towards painting the pie stalls.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Selling our best prospect for peanuts to the first bidder makes absolutely no sense, what the hell are the club paying at?, if there are mitigating details then we deserve to be informed, I can't fathom it out.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well at least we now know the club has zero ambition to progress beyond our current status. Survival / mid table mediocrity it is.

Mind you, you cant shift season tickets on that so may as well make out that our young talent is being tied up for the long term as a part of our ambition to progress only to sell out at the first opportunity.
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