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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Purely out of interest, but why can't they use Lesser Hampden?
Have I missed something?🤔
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

embow wrote:
Purely out of interest, but why can't they use Lesser Hampden?
Have I missed something?🤔


I have heard a rumour that the development isn't finished, whether that's a dispute with the contractor or the contractor themselves, I'd imagine there would need to be a completion/safety certificate required.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

QP now to play home games at Firhill this season.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Queens Park giving the ferry fiasco a run for it's money, who knows when they'll get into Lesser Hampden., still playing away for the time being.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ochilview apparently
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The rate QP are progressing Lesser Hampden is embarrassing, their fixture at Ochilview, where they are the 3rd team, against ICT on the 12th November has been bumped to a 17:30 KO due to Syngenta KO earlier.

The progress at Lesser, has been bungled, the analogy of a horse being designed by committee and producing a camel applies.

It looks like the ground will be a superior junior ground, but with limited capacity.

I would appreciate their relegation rather than visit their committee designed 'Pleasure dome'
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You would think they would sieze on the opportunity to make a ground worth visiting!

Another "horse designed by a commitee" was Balmoral Stadium. When Cove looked like heading for the big-time, they considered demolishing all of the new offices and the main-stand to make way for a remodelled the ground with a bigger capacity. Not sure if that's still on the cards now, after their dip in form.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The rate QP are progressing Lesser Hampden is embarrassing, their fixture at Ochilview, where they are the 3rd team, against ICT on the 12th November has been bumped to a 17:30 KO due to Syngenta KO earlier.

The progress at Lesser, has been bungled, the analogy of a horse being designed by committee and producing a camel applies.

It looks like the ground will be a superior junior ground, but with limited capacity.

I would appreciate their relegation rather than visit their committee designed 'Pleasure dome'


Couple of long posts on the matter from Queens fans on the other channel give some persepective, and it aint pretty:

By bridgeofweirdo I for one have had just about enough of the the 'us and them' frame of mind which is becoming more and more prevelant within the current political climate, so to see it show itself within what is my partial 'escape' from everyday reality - going to support the Queens and trying to be part of every game - it is, to say the least, highly frustrating not to know what the f**k is going on due to the lack of communication from 'them'?.

Throw us a bone here - how about a heads up on completion of the ground and the reasons behind the long delay? - - Surely we deserve at least that given the hoops(npi)we are being asked to jump through regarding dates,times,travel,expenses etc. etc.

By Bring Your Own Socks Alert! If you are about to read this on a phone, Id recommend waiting for a bigger screen.

Your first para probably covers about 95% of Queens fans. I can offer my reasoned opinion on the second, based on 36 years of working in the construction industry. Whether itll make you feel better, Im not sure.

Ill not repeat myself about how or why this contract has been let, other than to confirm its been done in-house. Never in my experience has there been a project without a Programme of Works. Its a critical part of a contract and written into the contract terms. Each individual trade is awarded a Trade Package and within that is the agreed dates, between both parties, of when the works will start and end. There should also be mechanisms in the contract where both parties can alert each other to any possible delays that will affect the finishing date, referred to as an Early Warning Notice. This allows a plan of corrective action to be put in place.

The agreed contracted dates are also the trigger for penalty clauses. If a trade contractor fails to meet their deadlines without good reason, they get punished financially. Usually by having the associated costs deducted from their final account.

At the recent round-table meetings, the club President confirmed there was no programme of works. When asked why, the answer was the contractor refused to work to a programme. In that circumstance, normally, they would be shown the door. As previously mentioned, there is no hoarding with the site information, health & safety information, Considerate Constructor information and most obviously an advertising board with the contractors name. Ive been told first-hand its a company called Calma, based in Rutherglen. What I surmise from all of this is that after the debacle of the first contract, which the Adjudicator found heavily in favour of Bell Building Projects, our lot were struggling (frightened) to appoint another contractor and someone has facilitated this company who have taken on the project but entirely on their terms I.e. zero-risk to them.

So, when the CEO said what she said last February I suspect (having confirmation from the President that they were still believing the original programme would be met) she was referring to the original programme timeline, superimposed into this years calendar. And she had no skill or capability, nor chose to ask those who did, of foreseeing that her programme would not be met, or even close, when you have a contractor deciding what to do when it suits them. Its been clear to me, and others I'm sure, that there is no trade co-ordination, which means no site management of worth, which leads to each task being done in turn, with no forward planning. And most importantly, no incentive for the main and sub contractors to get done on time.

Of course, time is money and Ive absolutely no doubt this effort is a runaway train in terms of budget by now. The Royal Box was never planned for and its the second design team, Arka, involved in that only. As my Mum used to say, a one-eyed man with a white stick could see whos running, and paying for, that show. More importantly for me, the South stand should have been built in conjunction with the East Stand. The two are physically connected and the same design, materials etc. Critically, the junction of the two is the main entrance to the East stand, something that is mandatory in terms of the SPFL license.. When I saw the drawings introduce a temporary access/egress for Away fans in the East stand, the writing was on the wall. But guess what? Gleeds who were the Project Manager (the money men) on the first project got dropped. And the new team watching the purse are none other than City Building Engineering Services, part of City Holdings. Convenient, eh?

Sorry if the blood has gone out of your legs by now but its complicated. Believe it or not, this is the abridged version. None of the people involved in the first contract should have got near this. Its been taken over and run by Team Haughey (Jim Simmonette was around in the early days). And thats the reason why our Directors and CEO are off the radar.

With regard to the fixture fiascowhen Neilly from Stenhousemuir spilled the beans a while back the penny dropped. Its basic arithmetic really. For as long as anyone can remember teams are scheduled to play home and away in consecutive weeks. So if a team is ground-sharing, both leagues involved have to be made aware in plenty of time (Dempster said at the meeting last February she had until 1st March to confirm where QP would play their home games) so that fixtures can be co-ordinated to suit the home-away cycle for both teams. Tricky but do-able for the guys who do that stuff.

Introduce a third team into that cycle and youve got musical chairs. Three into two cant go. So without any possible doubt, when the fixtures were put up and season books being printed, our Committee and CEO must have known, must have, that we would be the ones left standing when the music stopped. And so it will remain until we return to Lesser, or the season is finished.

I saw a comment about feeling sorry for the committee. I dont. They were given a lifeline in the summer of 2021 to get help from people in the club who care about Queens Park, and they ignored it. Furthermore, they continue to flout the operating rules of the club, as set out in the Articles of Association, by ignoring firstly the membership and secondly sidelining what are effectively events in the Articles that, as per the change to Professionalism, the members should, by Companies House law, be asked to vote for or against changing. Critical events such as the AGM date, submission dates of audited accounts, re-election of committe members, re-election of office bearers. Whilst the professionalism on the playing side has risen sharply, the shady behaviour of the Committee/Directors has taken the values of honesty & integrity, keystones at QPFC for 150 years, in the opposite direction.

As for the CEO, nothing but a charlatan. Shes not working for QPFC.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2023 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simon Murray off to Ross County. That could be the title challenge over for them
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oot the cup!
But looking like taking a grip at the top with a win over Ayr tonight.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking like QP could move up the pecking order at Ochilview as the money man at Syngenta is moving his ego to Camelon.
Syngenta's next match looks to be off due to not being able to field a team.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quite the statement this, accepting accountability and keeping their fans on board, well done QP

Whilst preparing to face Inverness Caledonian Thistle, the club was required to complete transfer/registration forms for three players against the hard deadline of the ‘Transfer Window’ closing. In focussing on ensuring the associated paperwork was drafted appropriately, and submitted in a timely fashion, an oversight was made regarding the team line-up for that evening’s cup-tie. That oversight resulted in a player being named in our starting line-up and participating in the game when he was not eligible to do so, as he had not been signed by the original date of the tie.

That was in breach of competition rule 12.5 and the club notified the Scottish Football Association of the situation as soon as it became aware. A meeting was held with the Scottish FA on 3 February, and the outcome was that Queen’s Park’s participation in the Scottish Cup for season 2022/23 was ended.

As a result of this, the club has enhanced its procedures around checking eligibility of players and how the club will manage future transfer activity.

At these times of financial pressure for everyone, we greatly appreciated the supporters who made the considerable investment of time and money to travel on a midweek evening to support the team. Accordingly the club have agreed to reimburse the Supporters’ Association. The Association will make appropriate arrangements to compensate those who travelled to Inverness including supporters who made their own travel arrangements.

In addition, every Queen’s Park supporter in attendance at the Caledonian Stadium will be offered a complimentary ticket for our cinch Championship match with Hamilton Academical at New Douglas Park on Saturday, 25 February. These tickets will be available to uplift from Lesser Hampden from Tuesday at 10 am. We would ask that any supporter who is unable to pick up their ticket in person to contact the club on 0141 632 1275 to make alternative arrangements.

Club President David Hunter said: “We did not manage this situation as well as we should have. While we have put new measures in place, this of course is no consolation to our players, staff and supporters, all of whom we let down. I can only apologise, in particular to our supporters who travelled to support the team that night as it was during a month where we had a series of lengthy trips to away games.

“As bitter a pill to swallow as this is, we must not allow this to overshadow our important run in to the Championship season. We made a mistake and we have learnt from it. Now is the time to move on and continue your tremendous support for the team.”

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

red zebra wrote:
Quite the statement this, accepting accountability and keeping their fans on board, well done QP

Whilst preparing to face Inverness Caledonian Thistle, the club was required to complete transfer/registration forms for three players against the hard deadline of the ‘Transfer Window’ closing. In focussing on ensuring the associated paperwork was drafted appropriately, and submitted in a timely fashion, an oversight was made regarding the team line-up for that evening’s cup-tie. That oversight resulted in a player being named in our starting line-up and participating in the game when he was not eligible to do so, as he had not been signed by the original date of the tie.

That was in breach of competition rule 12.5 and the club notified the Scottish Football Association of the situation as soon as it became aware. A meeting was held with the Scottish FA on 3 February, and the outcome was that Queen’s Park’s participation in the Scottish Cup for season 2022/23 was ended.

As a result of this, the club has enhanced its procedures around checking eligibility of players and how the club will manage future transfer activity.

At these times of financial pressure for everyone, we greatly appreciated the supporters who made the considerable investment of time and money to travel on a midweek evening to support the team. Accordingly the club have agreed to reimburse the Supporters’ Association. The Association will make appropriate arrangements to compensate those who travelled to Inverness including supporters who made their own travel arrangements.

In addition, every Queen’s Park supporter in attendance at the Caledonian Stadium will be offered a complimentary ticket for our cinch Championship match with Hamilton Academical at New Douglas Park on Saturday, 25 February. These tickets will be available to uplift from Lesser Hampden from Tuesday at 10 am. We would ask that any supporter who is unable to pick up their ticket in person to contact the club on 0141 632 1275 to make alternative arrangements.

Club President David Hunter said: “We did not manage this situation as well as we should have. While we have put new measures in place, this of course is no consolation to our players, staff and supporters, all of whom we let down. I can only apologise, in particular to our supporters who travelled to support the team that night as it was during a month where we had a series of lengthy trips to away games.

“As bitter a pill to swallow as this is, we must not allow this to overshadow our important run in to the Championship season. We made a mistake and we have learnt from it. Now is the time to move on and continue your tremendous support for the team.”


Admitting their error and then a great gesture to their fans. Well played
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wellyboot wrote:
red zebra wrote:
Quite the statement this, accepting accountability and keeping their fans on board, well done QP

Whilst preparing to face Inverness Caledonian Thistle, the club was required to complete transfer/registration forms for three players against the hard deadline of the ‘Transfer Window’ closing. In focussing on ensuring the associated paperwork was drafted appropriately, and submitted in a timely fashion, an oversight was made regarding the team line-up for that evening’s cup-tie. That oversight resulted in a player being named in our starting line-up and participating in the game when he was not eligible to do so, as he had not been signed by the original date of the tie.

That was in breach of competition rule 12.5 and the club notified the Scottish Football Association of the situation as soon as it became aware. A meeting was held with the Scottish FA on 3 February, and the outcome was that Queen’s Park’s participation in the Scottish Cup for season 2022/23 was ended.

As a result of this, the club has enhanced its procedures around checking eligibility of players and how the club will manage future transfer activity.

At these times of financial pressure for everyone, we greatly appreciated the supporters who made the considerable investment of time and money to travel on a midweek evening to support the team. Accordingly the club have agreed to reimburse the Supporters’ Association. The Association will make appropriate arrangements to compensate those who travelled to Inverness including supporters who made their own travel arrangements.

In addition, every Queen’s Park supporter in attendance at the Caledonian Stadium will be offered a complimentary ticket for our cinch Championship match with Hamilton Academical at New Douglas Park on Saturday, 25 February. These tickets will be available to uplift from Lesser Hampden from Tuesday at 10 am. We would ask that any supporter who is unable to pick up their ticket in person to contact the club on 0141 632 1275 to make alternative arrangements.

Club President David Hunter said: “We did not manage this situation as well as we should have. While we have put new measures in place, this of course is no consolation to our players, staff and supporters, all of whom we let down. I can only apologise, in particular to our supporters who travelled to support the team that night as it was during a month where we had a series of lengthy trips to away games.

“As bitter a pill to swallow as this is, we must not allow this to overshadow our important run in to the Championship season. We made a mistake and we have learnt from it. Now is the time to move on and continue your tremendous support for the team.”


Admitting their error and then a great gesture to their fans. Well played


Apologies from anybody running a business are few and far between.
A good mea culpa and should be applauded and others should follow suit.

Saying sorry often deflates many a problem but many view this as weakness,when in fact it is a strength.

“ never admit you are wrong” is one of the worst pieces of advice that idiots give. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2023 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cuparman wrote:
wellyboot wrote:
red zebra wrote:
Quite the statement this, accepting accountability and keeping their fans on board, well done QP

Whilst preparing to face Inverness Caledonian Thistle, the club was required to complete transfer/registration forms for three players against the hard deadline of the ‘Transfer Window’ closing. In focussing on ensuring the associated paperwork was drafted appropriately, and submitted in a timely fashion, an oversight was made regarding the team line-up for that evening’s cup-tie. That oversight resulted in a player being named in our starting line-up and participating in the game when he was not eligible to do so, as he had not been signed by the original date of the tie.

That was in breach of competition rule 12.5 and the club notified the Scottish Football Association of the situation as soon as it became aware. A meeting was held with the Scottish FA on 3 February, and the outcome was that Queen’s Park’s participation in the Scottish Cup for season 2022/23 was ended.

As a result of this, the club has enhanced its procedures around checking eligibility of players and how the club will manage future transfer activity.

At these times of financial pressure for everyone, we greatly appreciated the supporters who made the considerable investment of time and money to travel on a midweek evening to support the team. Accordingly the club have agreed to reimburse the Supporters’ Association. The Association will make appropriate arrangements to compensate those who travelled to Inverness including supporters who made their own travel arrangements.

In addition, every Queen’s Park supporter in attendance at the Caledonian Stadium will be offered a complimentary ticket for our cinch Championship match with Hamilton Academical at New Douglas Park on Saturday, 25 February. These tickets will be available to uplift from Lesser Hampden from Tuesday at 10 am. We would ask that any supporter who is unable to pick up their ticket in person to contact the club on 0141 632 1275 to make alternative arrangements.

Club President David Hunter said: “We did not manage this situation as well as we should have. While we have put new measures in place, this of course is no consolation to our players, staff and supporters, all of whom we let down. I can only apologise, in particular to our supporters who travelled to support the team that night as it was during a month where we had a series of lengthy trips to away games.

“As bitter a pill to swallow as this is, we must not allow this to overshadow our important run in to the Championship season. We made a mistake and we have learnt from it. Now is the time to move on and continue your tremendous support for the team.”


Admitting their error and then a great gesture to their fans. Well played


Apologies from anybody running a business are few and far between.
A good mea culpa and should be applauded and others should follow suit.

Saying sorry often deflates many a problem but many view this as weakness,when in fact it is a strength.

“ never admit you are wrong” is one of the worst pieces of advice that idiots give. Rolling Eyes


except in the Goodwillie case....where countless apologies will seemingly never be enough for certain people Rolling Eyes
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