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wellyboot



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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2021 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

personally, I think it is great to see another Fife side in the league. Good luck to Kelty
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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2021 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Lowland League have voted (not unanimous) to allow ugly sister colts for one season.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if someone at Ibrox is thinking 2 down, 3 to go?

Or maybe 3 down 3 to go.

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In the summer of 1964, the fans of the Warriors, and four other small clubs, were shocked to discover that the other 32 clubs in the Scottish League were planning to dissolve the structure in place, and replace it with two new leagues of 16 teams. The plan, instigated by Rangers, had been revealed, secretly, to the 31 other selected teams at two April meetings held at the home of the Glasgow club, Ibrox. Albion Rovers, Berwick Rangers, Brechin City, Stranraer and Stenhousemuir would have no part to play in Scottish senior football if Rangers got their way.

The secret plans, according to Rangers, would make for a more competitive, attractive league set-up. However, for the excluded five, the scheme would possibly signal their demise, especially as in the mid-sixties, smaller clubs were highly dependent on pools money distributed by the Scottish League at 35 a point. In the season just ended, 1963-4, the Warriors gaining 35 points, were awarded 1225, a not inconsiderable sum at a time when many clubs were under pressure of extinction. Only three years later, Third Lanark, neighbours of Rangers, would go out of business, and the Steedman brothers were in the process of trying to kill off East Stirlingshire.

Previous efforts to restructure the leagues had ended in deadlock, therefore secretly Rangers were making an attempt to wind up the structure in place, and enforce one of their choosing. Of course, emotions ran high in Larbert and Stenhousemuir when the underhand plans were revealed. However, resentment and rage as sentiments themselves would not have halted the iniquitous scheme. Two special elements arrested the Rangers expulsion plans although it took four years to finally win a great victory!

Firstly, Jim Weir, the Warriors indomitable secretary, and Robert Turpie, committee man and Glasgow solicitor, formed a formidable partnership in forging a united approach from the five, and using every legal avenue open to rescue the situation. And secondly, although the press sided with Rangers in their illogical attempts at bullying, the 31 bedfellows gradually became more and more uneasy. In fact, at one of the secret meetings, on 28th April 1964, Alloa Athletic, Arbroath, Ayr United, Cowdenbeath, Dumbarton, East Fife, Montrose, Queen's Park, Raith Rovers and Stirling Albion were told that if they did not agree with the proposals, and vote with Rangers, then anyone of them could be expelled in place of one or more of the five.

Mr Turpie won an interim interdict on May 26th 1964, preventing Rangers winding up the structure at the Scottish League AGM two days later. This victory was short lived, although Rangers were finding support for their plans evaporating. Twenty-seven clubs led by Rangers issued a summons against the five in October 1964, and against five other clubs (including neighbours East Stirlingshire and Celtic, now powerful ally for the five). The summons stated that the Ibrox side should be allowed to submit winding up papers at a future meeting of the League .

The process of law is protracted. In November 1965, Lord Avonside rejected the majority of the preliminary defence pleas put forward by the five in opposition to Rangers: the five then turned to the Inner House of the Court of Session, who took over a year to issue a judgement. In December 1966, the Avonside decision was upheld. Nonetheless in February of that year, Stirling Albion had indicated withdrawal of support for the Rangers scheme.

The lowest point came in July 1967, when one of the five co- defendants was forced to give up the legal fight due to spiralling legal costs. This could have been the end of the fight. However, the four others agreed to meet any further legal costs, while, on the surface, the five looked to remain 'as one',

In the meantime, the support of those clubs remaining on the side of the Ibrox giants was weakening.

Even so it came as a huge surprise when on 7th November 1967, Rangers announced an out of court settlement had been reached with the five, which meant that, in exchange for a withdrawal of legal proceedings, the five could stay as part of any future new league set up! A Special General Meeting in April 1968 confirmed the status of the five, where a Brechin City proposal found the necessary two-thirds majority with ease. The greatest victory?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geez!
That brings back memories for me.
I was but a slip of a teenage boy at the time but well remember umpteen phone calls being answered for my dad who was a director back then through all that. Due to the location of the phone you couldn't but overhear calls or parts of the conversation in our wee house.🙉🤭😉
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The good people of Wigtownshire have long memories and hold a grudge.
I remember hearing nine years ago that this was the reason Stranraer voted against admitting the Hun tribute act into the Scottish League at all.

As for Berwick, if dumping the Huns out of the Scottish Cup in 1967 wasn't sweet enough already, that must have sugar coated it for them.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Craig Levein joins Brechin City as an advisor.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wolfman Jack wrote:
Craig Levein joins Brechin City as an advisor.


Jeez is he that skint Shocked he is an absolute pariah and will steal the dollar from whoever will listen to his wash.
It really is time Scottish football woke up to this charlatan.
I actually feel sorry for Brechin, always enjoyed the homemade soup up there, hope he disnae sour it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

red zebra wrote:
Wolfman Jack wrote:
Craig Levein joins Brechin City as an advisor.


Jeez is he that skint Shocked he is an absolute pariah and will steal the dollar from whoever will listen to his wash.
It really is time Scottish football woke up to this charlatan.
I actually feel sorry for Brechin, always enjoyed the homemade soup up there, hope he disnae sour it.


He is apparently working for free.

https://news.stv.tv/sport/craig-levein-joins-brechin-city-as-full-time-advisor
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He may be a lot of things , but lets no forget how he helped us and got us John McGlynn to be where we are today
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Armagh Rover wrote:
He may be a lot of things , but lets no forget how he helped us and got us John McGlynn to be where we are today

Absolutely agree.
Just because he has not been too successful in management (other than the Cowdenbeath spell) he has to be remembered in a positive way for putting us onto John regardless of all the other baggage that seems to follow him.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Statistically his record as Rovers manager was pretty grim - better than Tommy McLean and Anelka, but I defy anyone who watched us during his reign to say that Levein didn't improve us massively in terms of fitness, shape and overall performance.
He was also pretty decent at Hearts the first time (which got him the Leicester gig) and he did a good job at Dundee United as well, taking them from relegation fodder to consistent top half finishes and laying the foundations for their 2010 Cup winning side.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All 42 SPFL clubs asked to consider expansion to 48 member clubs - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57651255

Another suggestion that can just get in the bin. No relegation for the next 3 seasons as an incentive to the worst team and 4 leagues of 12 with a waste of time split after 3 rounds.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gary Parker wrote:
All 42 SPFL clubs asked to consider expansion to 48 member clubs - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57651255

Another suggestion that can just get in the bin. No relegation for the next 3 seasons as an incentive to the worst team and 4 leagues of 12 with a waste of time split after 3 rounds.


The split is the most annoying, frustrating, bastardized creation ever.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm all in favour of larger leagues, but all the proposals seem to come with the millstone added of having Celtic and Rangers B teams included.

Why do the authorities keep avoiding the real issue here?

Reinstate the reserve leagues and properly finance and support the reinstatement.

I am seriously fed-up with the rest of Scottish Football being used as cannon fodder for these two wealthy clubs who have bought there way into the Lowland league this year.
It is the epitome of what is wrong in Scottish Football today, and it needs to STOP!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Highland League introducing relegation for the first time ever in its 130 odd years history. Three other league winners play each other for the right to battle it out with the HL bottom club.
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