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Raith Roveros v Falkirk Bairns
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What will the result be?
Win
55%
 55%  [ 16 ]
Draw
17%
 17%  [ 5 ]
Defeat
27%
 27%  [ 8 ]
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Gary Parker
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crazy Englishman wrote:
Disappoint result, but one mistake cost us and umpteen missed chances. WE NEED A STRIKER WHO CAN SCORE GOALS simple.


We need players who can score goals, from all over the pitch. Bored of reading about how its only a forward who should be scoring. It would be nice but I don't care where they come from as long as its consistent.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dare I say we missed our captain and his scintillating runs down the wing, oh and does Daly win any headers ?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3pts away from dropping down to 6th, the only bright spot is the 11 point gap between us and the dreaded relegation dog fight. unless we can find a decent goal scorer or two in the Jan window, the play offs are a distant target, the amount of Midfielders at our disposal you would think there's a chance we have a few playmakers amongst them. Today probably luck was not with us
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thought the manager was poor today. His team selection was awful. Why break up the Benedictus- Toshney partnership? Ford has already shown he can do a job at right back. How McCord keeps getting a game I have no idea and Daly was a joke.
Substitututions were poor and way too late. Presume Rory was injured but Wighton should have come on for Stewart or Daly much earlier. Anderson should have started too.
Megginson man of the match? Has to be a joke! Although difficult to pick from the dross on show.
Stop tinkering Ray and get a settled team out Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neil M wrote:
Crazy Englishman wrote:
WE NEED A STRIKER WHO CAN SCORE GOALS simple.


Very true! Still - conceding 8 goals in 3 games is a pretty poor defensive record too.


Are we about to hear a sob story from Ray about being unlucky?
At work so missed this one, but I'd be interested to know if the keeper was in anyway to blame for any of the goals.
Personally I reckon he was at fault for the 1st one at Livvi last week and to a degree for the 2nd against Hibs. He's also let in a fair few from outside the box and I'm wondering if he is inspiring confidence in his defence. Speaking of which I know Thomo was out today but the strong pairing of Toshney and Bene seems to have well and truly floundered a bit of late which is worrying, but perhaps the unsettled midfield is the real cause. Hopefully this latest defeat will be well gone from our system by the time we hit Dumbarton in a fortnight. 14 days to lick our wounds and for Thomson to get back to fitness. If not lets see the strongest pairing at CB with young Elliot Ford at RB, as was mentioned earlier he was outstanding in recent reserve games and if Rory's not fit get that 17 year old Sean Mackie in at LB too.

Lastly if we don't get someone in January to replace the departing Daly we will be looking a 7th place for sure.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Need a striker badly.,Hope Davidson has an absolutely crap Saturday night.Lets look at some facts,.We have played 5 games against the top 3 teams ,and we have zero points.12 goals against,and only 2 scored,Maybe Ray McKinnon isnt as good as he is being made out to be,Wins against the bottom teams in the league are maybe his level..3 losses on the trot.....Grrr .Get it sorted !!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scotty wrote:
Neil M wrote:
Crazy Englishman wrote:
WE NEED A STRIKER WHO CAN SCORE GOALS simple.


Very true! Still - conceding 8 goals in 3 games is a pretty poor defensive record too.


Are we about to hear a sob story from Ray about being unlucky?
At work so missed this one, but I'd be interested to know if the keeper was in anyway to blame for any of the goals.
Personally I reckon he was at fault for the 1st one at Livvi last week and to a degree for the 2nd against Hibs. He's also let in a fair few from outside the box and I'm wondering if he is inspiring confidence in his defence. Speaking of which I know Thomo was out today but the strong pairing of Toshney and Bene seems to have well and truly floundered a bit of late which is worrying, but perhaps the unsettled midfield is the real cause. Hopefully this latest defeat will be well gone from our system by the time we hit Dumbarton in a fortnight. 14 days to lick our wounds and for Thomson to get back to fitness. If not lets see the strongest pairing at CB with young Elliot Ford at RB, as was mentioned earlier he was outstanding in recent reserve games and if Rory's not fit get that 17 year old Sean Mackie in at LB too.

Lastly if we don't get someone in January to replace the departing Daly we will be looking a 7th place for sure.


Toshney is not a RB, he doesn't have the mobility or pace for this role, young Mr Ford was the obvious choice to start, even if it didn't work out he could have been subbed, but I don't think that would have happened.
Davo was a bomb scare today and sold the game.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Am I the only one who thought we were gash!?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you're missing players through injury, surely the most important thing is to retain the spine of your team - in other words, don't break up the Benedictus / Toshney partnership which has been the foundation of most of the wins we've enjoyed this season.
Davo is not a centre half in any way, shape or form and, as posted by others, Ford should have been given a run today.
On the balance of play, it's a travesty that Falkirk are heading back over the Forth with 3 points, but we've probably only got ourselves to blame for that.

I couldn't believe Radio Scotland when I got back to the car - the silly cow doing the report said Falkirk deservedly took the 3 points and won the game after John Baird was sent clear by a wonderful defence splitting pass from a team mate, then mentioned efforts by almost every other Rovers player except Craigen (our best and closest) in the final quarter. You wonder how the BBC can justify peeing licence fee payers' money against a wall by sending reporters to game who either don't pay attention or simply have no grasp on either the teams or the players they're being paid to report on.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scotty wrote:


I'd be interested to know if the keeper was in anyway to blame for any of the goals.
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Couldn't blame Cuthbert for either goal today - 1st was a cracking cross and good strikers' finish at the back post, although the winger should have been closed down much earlier, and at the 2nd, Cuthbert was left exposed by Davo's suicidal pass back, although credit Baird for the finish.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Specky Ginger wrote:
When you're missing players through injury, surely the most important thing is to retain the spine of your team - in other words, don't break up the Benedictus / Toshney partnership which has been the foundation of most of the wins we've enjoyed this season.
Davo is not a centre half in any way, shape or form and, as posted by others, Ford should have been given a run today.
On the balance of play, it's a travesty that Falkirk are heading back over the Forth with 3 points, but we've probably only got ourselves to blame for that.

I couldn't believe Radio Scotland when I got back to the car - the silly cow doing the report said Falkirk deservedly took the 3 points and won the game after John Baird was sent clear by a wonderful defence splitting pass from a team mate, then mentioned efforts by almost every other Rovers player except Craigen (our best and closest) in the final quarter. You wonder how the BBC can justify peeing licence fee payers' money against a wall by sending reporters to game who either don't pay attention or simply have no grasp on either the teams or the players they're being paid to report on.


Connie is a footballing dunce.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wolfman Jack wrote:
Specky Ginger wrote:
When you're missing players through injury, surely the most important thing is to retain the spine of your team - in other words, don't break up the Benedictus / Toshney partnership which has been the foundation of most of the wins we've enjoyed this season.
Davo is not a centre half in any way, shape or form and, as posted by others, Ford should have been given a run today.
On the balance of play, it's a travesty that Falkirk are heading back over the Forth with 3 points, but we've probably only got ourselves to blame for that.

I couldn't believe Radio Scotland when I got back to the car - the silly cow doing the report said Falkirk deservedly took the 3 points and won the game after John Baird was sent clear by a wonderful defence splitting pass from a team mate, then mentioned efforts by almost every other Rovers player except Craigen (our best and closest) in the final quarter. You wonder how the BBC can justify peeing licence fee payers' money against a wall by sending reporters to game who either don't pay attention or simply have no grasp on either the teams or the players they're being paid to report on.


Connie is a footballing dunce.


Maybe shes learned from some of this forums posters and rovers fans. Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Rolling Eyes Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's Ray's post-match interview just up now - read into it what you will! Confused
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very poor match today, conditions didn't help.

We need a settled misperceptions and there is no need to fit square pegs into round holes (Toshney at RB).

There are 14 days till a double header inside 77 hours, give the players a bit of a break and then train them hard, making sure that we are refreshed....
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Disappointed today, I thought we were second best however, with teh chances made we could have at least had a point.

Agree with the Duke of Atholl, Ray McKinnon didn't select the best team, his use of subs today was very poor.

His positive belief in Daly and Stewart is threatening the side, they are dreadful.
Come on Hearts ask for Daly's early release please.
Goodness knows what Stewart's role is but he is rarely in the best place for a pass, etc.,

Ray address the following:

Team selection.. you have to play young guys that are inform, and stop meddling with the core of the side to cover injuries, believe in the young players.

Forget Daly & Stewart ... both are utterly hopeless up front.

Throw-ins... are a joke, we lose possession most of the time.

Corners and crosses ... woeful, either too long and far too "floaty". Rarely into the danger area delivered with pace.

Lack of width on both flanks.

Use of subs ... you need to get players subbed long before the end of the game, Daly & Stewart were poor for all of the match.

Long balls from defence .. it still ahppening.

Get the players to pass the ball on the deck... the amount of times today a player would either chip the ball forward or lump it forward when a through ball into the forward players path was by far the easy and best option.

Three defeats on the trot, poor stuff.
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