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Scary Bear
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| barney wrote: | | lbarnett-bl wrote: | | StarksBarmy wrote: | Doubt there is any purpose in a protest. The board know the truth but won't act on it, Murray is either blind or stupid to think he is doing a decent job.
Think everybody in the main stand or even sitting together in one section of South stand would point out to board the amount of empty seats for a game which, let's face it, was one everybody was looking forward to pre season and if things weren't such a farce we would easily have filled 2-3,000 seats behind the goal. Difficult to arrange though and we still have a handful of happy clappers who are as blind as our manager.
Least we HAVE a team they say? Great, doesn't mean we have to be content with the rubbish we have served up for over a year which is driving people away, stopping potential new fans attending and making most fans down right miserable |
Main Stand probably easier to arrange although still difficult as if folk are in the South Stand they'll probably be inclined to go to their usual seats. |
Also if you have a season ticket for the South Stand as most of us do then you will have to pay again to enter the Main Stand. Not really a protest is it ? |
No you don't. I have a season ticket for the South Stand, but I regularly watch games from the Main Stand.
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lbarnett-bl
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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| barney wrote: | | lbarnett-bl wrote: | | StarksBarmy wrote: | Doubt there is any purpose in a protest. The board know the truth but won't act on it, Murray is either blind or stupid to think he is doing a decent job.
Think everybody in the main stand or even sitting together in one section of South stand would point out to board the amount of empty seats for a game which, let's face it, was one everybody was looking forward to pre season and if things weren't such a farce we would easily have filled 2-3,000 seats behind the goal. Difficult to arrange though and we still have a handful of happy clappers who are as blind as our manager.
Least we HAVE a team they say? Great, doesn't mean we have to be content with the rubbish we have served up for over a year which is driving people away, stopping potential new fans attending and making most fans down right miserable |
Main Stand probably easier to arrange although still difficult as if folk are in the South Stand they'll probably be inclined to go to their usual seats. |
Also if you have a season ticket for the South Stand as most of us do then you will have to pay again to enter the Main Stand. Not really a protest is it ? |
As has been said you don't, they don't look at your seat number they just rip out the necessary voucher or take it if you rip it out yourself in front of them. |
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12th man
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Funnily enough I decided to swap my normal seat in the SS fo a seat in the Main at our last home drubbing vs Livi and to be honest I was always had the opinion that it was the home for the happy clappers how wrong I was, the apathy towards Murray was as vocally present if not more than the SS....
I think I'll sit in the Main again vs Hibs |
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12th man
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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| lbarnett-bl wrote: | | barney wrote: | | lbarnett-bl wrote: | | StarksBarmy wrote: | Doubt there is any purpose in a protest. The board know the truth but won't act on it, Murray is either blind or stupid to think he is doing a decent job.
Think everybody in the main stand or even sitting together in one section of South stand would point out to board the amount of empty seats for a game which, let's face it, was one everybody was looking forward to pre season and if things weren't such a farce we would easily have filled 2-3,000 seats behind the goal. Difficult to arrange though and we still have a handful of happy clappers who are as blind as our manager.
Least we HAVE a team they say? Great, doesn't mean we have to be content with the rubbish we have served up for over a year which is driving people away, stopping potential new fans attending and making most fans down right miserable |
Main Stand probably easier to arrange although still difficult as if folk are in the South Stand they'll probably be inclined to go to their usual seats. |
Also if you have a season ticket for the South Stand as most of us do then you will have to pay again to enter the Main Stand. Not really a protest is it ? |
As has been said you don't, they don't look at your seat number they just rip out the necessary voucher or take it if you rip it out yourself in front of them. |
I think you might find that the turnstiles would have the authority to refuse you entry and point you in the direction of your allocated seat....this I would envisage would be the case especially when they expect a large visiting support, I do believe that for Season Ticket you can get a temporary pass from the office that allows the person to swap between stands, you would best to check if this would be available on match day as resources might be a bit thin due to the large away support.
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lbarnett-bl
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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| 12th man wrote: | | lbarnett-bl wrote: | | barney wrote: | | lbarnett-bl wrote: | | StarksBarmy wrote: | Doubt there is any purpose in a protest. The board know the truth but won't act on it, Murray is either blind or stupid to think he is doing a decent job.
Think everybody in the main stand or even sitting together in one section of South stand would point out to board the amount of empty seats for a game which, let's face it, was one everybody was looking forward to pre season and if things weren't such a farce we would easily have filled 2-3,000 seats behind the goal. Difficult to arrange though and we still have a handful of happy clappers who are as blind as our manager.
Least we HAVE a team they say? Great, doesn't mean we have to be content with the rubbish we have served up for over a year which is driving people away, stopping potential new fans attending and making most fans down right miserable |
Main Stand probably easier to arrange although still difficult as if folk are in the South Stand they'll probably be inclined to go to their usual seats. |
Also if you have a season ticket for the South Stand as most of us do then you will have to pay again to enter the Main Stand. Not really a protest is it ? |
As has been said you don't, they don't look at your seat number they just rip out the necessary voucher or take it if you rip it out yourself in front of them. |
I think you might find that the turnstiles would have the authority to refuse you entry and point you in the direction of your allocated seat....this I would envisage would be the case especially when they expect a large visiting support, I do believe that for Season Ticket you can get a temporary pass from the office that allows the person to swap between stands, you would best to check if this would be available on match day as resources might be a bit thin due to the large away support. |
Surely no need for this outwith matches that are all-ticket matches? this being a straight PATG match with choice of seating albeit season ticket holders do have their normal reserved seats (unless I've missed an announcement about tickets somewhere?) |
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12th man
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Best to check non the less to avoid disappointment 
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bigeein
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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| 12th man wrote: | Funnily enough I decided to swap my normal seat in the SS fo a seat in the Main at our last home drubbing vs Livi and to be honest I was always had the opinion that it was the home for the happy clappers how wrong I was, the apathy towards Murray was as vocally present if not more than the SS....
I think I'll sit in the Main again vs Hibs |
Holly $£!# , YOU WERE IN THE "SS" . Any chance you could use your military training to coach the rovers through the week " your hired "  would a 2 year deal be ok , we don't need to see your C.V.
As a protest everyone pile into the main stand , instead of giving it tight to Murray , how about ripping the board a new one as they have put us in this situation
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lbarnett-bl
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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| So what is the general consensus on the Main Stand thing because it isn't a protest in the truest sense of the word? |
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lbarnett-bl
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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| If it's going to work we'll obviously have to spread it further than just this forum. |
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Wolfman Jack
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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I predict extra stewards in the main stand this coming Saturday.
Edited to add.
If this did happen it would cost the club for their services, not much mind you, but it would still be a burden on the bank account.
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R12ATH
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:50 pm Post subject: Re: Rovers v Hibs (Protest??) |
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| rovers4ever wrote: | | Think this would be a good match to have a protest if Murray is still in charge. Who would be up for this and what form would it take? |
So, i get it completely that fans are really unhappy with the performances, and with the management team and with the board to a lesser extent.. Totally get it so not bashing anyone on this... However, at this point our fans could do 1 of 2 things...1) voice or discontent via a protest.. or 2) put your personal thoughts about the manager to the side for 90 minutes and REALLY REALLY get behind the players on Saturday on what is a HUGE game for us against Hibs.
To me.. a Saturday is all about the game, all about supporting the team. Its well documented in the various forums, newspapers, chatrooms, etc, how most of the fans feel about the performances and the management team - so its not like they dont know...
Imagine a young player like Callaghan, Vaughan, etc sitting in the dressing room thinking, I really dont want to go out here as the fans are going to be all over us...not exactly a positive environment and we are supposed to be at HOME.
I am pretty sure the board know exactly how we feel and I've got faith in them that they will either sort it out, or our performances will improve..whatever comes first.
Our current board have done an amazing job keeping us afloat and turning a small profit the last 2 years and bringing stability to the club.
Maybe.. just maybe everyone could channel this anger and frustration into creating a great buzz and postitive vibe for nexts week game to give the players a lift and leave any protesting or barracking to the manager TILL AFTER the game if we get beat...
For 90 mins during the game, lets get behind the team as the 12th man. |
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lbarnett-bl
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| Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:18 am Post subject: Re: Rovers v Hibs (Protest??) |
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| R12ATH wrote: | | rovers4ever wrote: | | Think this would be a good match to have a protest if Murray is still in charge. Who would be up for this and what form would it take? |
So, i get it completely that fans are really unhappy with the performances, and with the management team and with the board to a lesser extent.. Totally get it so not bashing anyone on this... However, at this point our fans could do 1 of 2 things...1) voice or discontent via a protest.. or 2) put your personal thoughts about the manager to the side for 90 minutes and REALLY REALLY get behind the players on Saturday on what is a HUGE game for us against Hibs.
To me.. a Saturday is all about the game, all about supporting the team. Its well documented in the various forums, newspapers, chatrooms, etc, how most of the fans feel about the performances and the management team - so its not like they dont know...
Imagine a young player like Callaghan, Vaughan, etc sitting in the dressing room thinking, I really dont want to go out here as the fans are going to be all over us...not exactly a positive environment and we are supposed to be at HOME.
I am pretty sure the board know exactly how we feel and I've got faith in them that they will either sort it out, or our performances will improve..whatever comes first.
Our current board have done an amazing job keeping us afloat and turning a small profit the last 2 years and bringing stability to the club.
Maybe.. just maybe everyone could channel this anger and frustration into creating a great buzz and postitive vibe for nexts week game to give the players a lift and leave any protesting or barracking to the manager TILL AFTER the game if we get beat...
For 90 mins during the game, lets get behind the team as the 12th man. |
By all means get behind the team that's what we should all do but when it makes no difference when is the time to start doing something about it? |
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bigeein
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| Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:50 am Post subject: Re: Rovers v Hibs (Protest??) |
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| R12ATH wrote: | | rovers4ever wrote: | | Think this would be a good match to have a protest if Murray is still in charge. Who would be up for this and what form would it take? |
So, i get it completely that fans are really unhappy with the performances, and with the management team and with the board to a lesser extent.. Totally get it so not bashing anyone on this... However, at this point our fans could do 1 of 2 things...1) voice or discontent via a protest.. or 2) put your personal thoughts about the manager to the side for 90 minutes and REALLY REALLY get behind the players on Saturday on what is a HUGE game for us against Hibs.
To me.. a Saturday is all about the game, all about supporting the team. Its well documented in the various forums, newspapers, chatrooms, etc, how most of the fans feel about the performances and the management team - so its not like they dont know...
Imagine a young player like Callaghan, Vaughan, etc sitting in the dressing room thinking, I really dont want to go out here as the fans are going to be all over us...not exactly a positive environment and we are supposed to be at HOME.
I am pretty sure the board know exactly how we feel and I've got faith in them that they will either sort it out, or our performances will improve..whatever comes first.
Our current board have done an amazing job keeping us afloat and turning a small profit the last 2 years and bringing stability to the club.
Maybe.. just maybe everyone could channel this anger and frustration into creating a great buzz and postitive vibe for nexts week game to give the players a lift and leave any protesting or barracking to the manager TILL AFTER the game if we get beat...
For 90 mins during the game, lets get behind the team as the 12th man. |
The lads i go to the football with have been all season , however its a results driven business and we aren't getting the right results . I don't know how often you go but I go to every game I can , home and away and Saturday's jaunt to Dumbarton cost me quite a few bob .
I have never seen a season where the rovers have been beaten so comprehensively on regular occasions . It started with the 1-0 cup defeat to Dunfermline , 4-3 to QOTS , 4-0 Rangers , 4-0 Dundee , 4-0 Hearts , 6-1 Rangers , 5-1 livingston , and yesterday's 2-1 Dumbarton .
Like I have said in another thread the board gave Murray a 2 year deal and are now in a situation where they are possibly not able to sack him due to a payoff . So any protest should be put to the directors . They did the hiring , and offered the long contract . So in the words of a director "we are where we are right now you will just have to get on with it". I would like to turn that around and say to that director "you have made your bed you will just have to lie in it " do the right thing and move on before this becomes a relegation battle for us . We have a team of players that can perform a lot better than what we are seeing , however obscure tatics , team line ups and an inability to change the flow of a match in our favour has frustrated fans far to often . Its come to a head and someone from the board needs to stand up , man up and be counted at a time when it is needed . Now is that time .
Im not having a go at you but I feel that for many weeks now the fans have sucked it up and given the lads on the pitch good support despite regular mistakes and horrendous results . It's just not working due to tatics , bad luck and poor management desisions . Only a few weeks ago Murray wanted to put Callachan out on loan . Anderson has been our best player in recent weeks and chipped in with a few goals , benched yesterday and never got on ? Last season Murray once played Eliot in midfield , he was honking all match playing out of possition yet finished the match that day still in midfield , I think we got pumped then as well . Far to often players are on the pitch not because they are on form but because they are a managers favourites. What kind of a message dose that send out to players competing for a first team start . I felt there was some games last season that Thomson was very poor , however he always started . There is more going on that meets the eye .
It has to change.
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StarksBarmy
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| Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 2:47 am Post subject: Re: Rovers v Hibs (Protest??) |
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| R12ATH wrote: | | rovers4ever wrote: | | Think this would be a good match to have a protest if Murray is still in charge. Who would be up for this and what form would it take? |
So, i get it completely that fans are really unhappy with the performances, and with the management team and with the board to a lesser extent.. Totally get it so not bashing anyone on this... However, at this point our fans could do 1 of 2 things...1) voice or discontent via a protest.. or 2) put your personal thoughts about the manager to the side for 90 minutes and REALLY REALLY get behind the players on Saturday on what is a HUGE game for us against Hibs.
To me.. a Saturday is all about the game, all about supporting the team. Its well documented in the various forums, newspapers, chatrooms, etc, how most of the fans feel about the performances and the management team - so its not like they dont know...
Imagine a young player like Callaghan, Vaughan, etc sitting in the dressing room thinking, I really dont want to go out here as the fans are going to be all over us...not exactly a positive environment and we are supposed to be at HOME.
I am pretty sure the board know exactly how we feel and I've got faith in them that they will either sort it out, or our performances will improve..whatever comes first.
Our current board have done an amazing job keeping us afloat and turning a small profit the last 2 years and bringing stability to the club.
Maybe.. just maybe everyone could channel this anger and frustration into creating a great buzz and postitive vibe for nexts week game to give the players a lift and leave any protesting or barracking to the manager TILL AFTER the game if we get beat...
For 90 mins during the game, lets get behind the team as the 12th man. |
Callaghan (who Murray wanted to punt last week cause we have Liam Fox) and Vaughan I'm sure are aware that the fans want them to see more game time and if anything they probably agree with us and want a new manager in. If the players are playing well then over the course of 90mins they will get encouragement and support. Nobody is saying go along a boo them regardless. The anger is towards our management and now our board for keeping him when he is obviously not up to it. Personally I think we have a decent squad of players who are more than capable and most DO put the effort in. Sadly they aren't doing the right things in training and aren't being set up correctly or motivated correctly to win games of football |
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lbarnett-bl
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| Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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| 12th man wrote: | | Best to check non the less to avoid disappointment |
I checked, you are indeed free to use any unreserved seat in the Main Stand. |
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