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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leishman of course knew nothing about the dealings of the previous board Shocked
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find it incredible that Leishman's role has apparently never been questioned and he's now being welcomed into the new boardroom.
As well as being party to all decisions made at board level I believe he was more than well remunerated in the chief exec type role he had a few years back.
If that had been anyone else they'd have been hounded out of Dunfermline but not good old Jim, he just needs to shed a few crocodile tears and front up the save the pars campaign and he's off scot free. The Pars fans are mugs if they think he didn't know what was going on.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He knew exactly what was going on.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They all knew what was going on they just didn't want to ask any scary questions. It was common knowledge for years that they were many millions in debt yet the "outrage" of the pars fans only started to surface when the gravy train started to derail. I guess its the same to an extent with all these clubs that financially dope themselves. When David Murray was spouting his tenner for every fiver Celtic spend line Rangers fans didn't question how they could afford to outspend a rival club with a similar revenue to such an extent.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Castle wrote:
They all knew what was going on they just didn't want to ask any scary questions. It was common knowledge for years that they were many millions in debt yet the "outrage" of the pars fans only started to surface when the gravy train started to derail. I guess its the same to an extent with all these clubs that financially dope themselves. When David Murray was spouting his tenner for every fiver Celtic spend line Rangers fans didn't question how they could afford to outspend a rival club with a similar revenue to such an extent.


Think Rangers`s fans assumed SDM had unlimited funds to invest in their club- guess they found out the truth the hard way.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think you are all being a bit harsh on Leishman. He was too pissed most of the time to know what was going on
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am amazed that Leishman still came out of this as a legend.

Anyhoo, dont feel cheated by the Pars personally, but its a strange post for a pars fan to make.

The club did cheat, and the were happy to go along with it. Nobody cared when Dunfermline were in the SPL, in Europe, in Scottish Cup finals, and latterly, winning the 1st Division. Throughout this time, many fans of opposition clubs would point out the Pars finances and that they were rotten to the core, and this was met by claims of jealousy etc. Everyone knew the Pars couldnt sustain that, but where were the "honest men and women" then?

Comparisons to ourselves are also ridiculous. Yes, we have had our financial problems, but we have had to watch some turgid keech as a result, for a number of years. Even now we are still paying the price. I'm sure we could have chucked ourselves into admin, paid nothing back, and be better for it. Dunfermline took the cowards and easy way out, whatever way you look at it. However, the system allows them to do what they did.

I didnt and dont wish for DAFC to die, I'd hate for genuine football fans to lose their club and i enjoy the rivalry and derby games. But spare us the "woe is us" nonsense. You were more than happy to enjoy the good times when everyone knew it would come falling down.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reportedly planning to resort to a plastic pitch to help raise revenue. So glad they can afford one!!!! Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And we all know what happened to their last plastic fantastic pitch it ended up at pitreavie. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aye,but they got that for nothing a gift from UEFA if I remember correctly.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zicoromaines wrote:
Aye,but they got that for nothing a gift from UEFA if I remember correctly.


Trial basis wasn't it, testing out the then-latest 3G surface?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Turned out to be no' much better than if they'd laid carpet tiles if I recall. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PITREAVIE

The interim Board provided the following prepared statement to the Dunfermline Press earlier this week regarding the ongoing situation at Pitreavie Playing Fields. A copy is provided below for all Pars supporters reference. This matter will remain fluid for a number of weeks, and the interim Board will update supporters when further information or clarity is available.

Everyone associated with the management of DAFC would prefer to look forward and rebuild the Club, rather than continually dealing with legacy issues but unfortunately the interim Board is now seeking legal advice regarding comments attributable to the Pars Trust in their prepared statement.

"Dunfermline Athletic Football Club (DAFC) is equally concerned about the current state of the community facility at Pitreavie Playing Fields. Not only have we received numerous complaints in recent weeks, but our back room staff who are based there, have had to contend with two visits from Environmental Health Officers, and the threat of the gas supply being terminated.


However, it is important to point out to the local community that currently DAFC does not operate and manage the facility at Pitreavie, it only uses it as a training facility for the first team squad. The current disrepair and lack of management control over the facility continues to be damaging to the brand of the Football Club, Laughing as the perception appears to be that this is the responsibility of DAFC. We are aware from our own discussions with the landlord, Fife Council that they too are deeply concerned about the current state of the facility.


It is important to stress that Pitreavie is solely operated by The Pars Trust, which is a charity set up by the previous owner of DAFC. The sole director is Ms Karen Masterton. Although, DAFC has a long term lease with Fife Council, a historical sub lease was put in place between DAFC and The Pars Trust, by the former owner, which Pars United had to take over when it acquired DAFC in October. Representatives from DAFC have had a number of meetings with Ms Masterton to try and resolve matters without success, so DAFC formally notified The Pars Trust last week that the sub lease was to be terminated no later than 21 September 2014. The current situation is untenable and decisive action needs now to be taken in this regard.


DAFC has held very positive talks to date with Fife Council about developing Pitreavie as a true community wide sporting facility, and would like to take these discussions further forward, but unfortunately another significant issue has now arisen.


Former owner, Gavin Masterton and Chairman, John Yorkston previously provided DAFC's interest in the lease at Pitreavie, as security for a loan against their pension fund. It is understood this loan has not been repaid, and therefore solicitors representing Messrs Masterton and Yorkston, as pension trustees along with the pension scheme administrator, Hornbuckle recently notified DAFC that they intend to call up their security interest as from 2 February. This matter may well take weeks or months to resolve.


Until this matter is resolved, not only will the future of the facility remain unclear, but DAFC remain concerned that no investment will be made in the community grounds at Pitreavie, which will result in a further deterioration of the facility. DAFC's intention had been to work more closely with Fife Council and other stakeholders as well as the local community, such as the highly impressive Soccer 7'S to rebuild the facility at Pitreavie, but these are now on hold and there is a very distinct possibility that this may not happen at all".
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geez! That's hard on the brain trying to unravel that little lot. Confused
I'm still unsure what the threads of all that point to. Confused
Anyone want to translate into simple 'Fife Speak' instead of large doses 'Dunfermline Drivel'?
T'would be much appreciated. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

embow wrote:
Geez! That's hard on the brain trying to unravel that little lot. Confused
I'm still unsure what the threads of all that point to. Confused
Anyone want to translate into simple 'Fife Speak' instead of large doses 'Dunfermline Drivel'?
T'would be much appreciated. Smile


Mastertons mob (Pars trust) still has the lease on Pitreavie but obviously hasn't been doing much/any maintenance during their tenure.

Pitreavie now in a very poor state needing lots of dough spent on it.

Council/owners want to punt the Pars trust out but will be willing to give new Dunfermline mob chance to take over the lease as long as they do the repairs.....hopefully.

Council will end up doing repairs at the ratepayers / council tax payers expense and Pars will get a shiny new training facility leaving them able to spend the money on players instead to compete in next seasons championship. All in all a win win situation for them but lose lose if you pay council tax in Fife and are not a follower of the dark side.

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