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sonofwallace · Joined: 11 Jul 2008 Posts: 7381 Location: kirkcaldy

That is maybe so allan but that money wasnt just raised by the fans groups it came from the whole support and beyond.Dave is a good guy but he just needs to make himself more available to the support and not just by email.He goes to styx on a saturday when we are at home so why not make it a time for fans to go and discuss the way forward.For that to happen it needs publicised through every available channel and not just this forum.
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Tam · Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:11 am Post subject:

Second that SoW, it was ALL the fans that took part and raised the money and put effort in.

Allan, I think this has been part of the ongoing problem with this "fan" representative. We all know there were fans groups making the thing work however, it was Rovers fans from all areas of the support that took part.

Vinnie · Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:16 am Post subject:

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Soundwave · Joined: 15 Jul 2008 Posts: 819 Location: Edinburgh

If you are a member of the Raith Trust, 200 Club, Supporters Club or MacMillan Club then Dave Wann has been elected by your fellow members as your representative on the board.

From my recollection, Dave was unapposed as were the previous 2 (not in any way being disrespectful to them - only stating facts) and on each occasion when there has been an election there has been publicity in the local media, through the website, at the ground and, if you are a member of the Trust, through letter correspondance. If anyone had any objections then they had the opportunity to raise them, as part of a democratic process.

The only criteria to stand for election is to be or become a member of 1 of the 4 Forum groups, so essentially the fee to take part in the election is a minimum of £5.

If we struggle to get 1 fans' rep on the board, i'm not sure where we expect to get 2 from. . . . .

p.s. I think it is fair that Alan and other Raith Trust members get the credit they deserve as it was the Trust who launched the 'Reclaim the Rovers' campaign several months before the official supporters clubs were allowed to publicly support it, and they co-ordinated the combined fans efforts. No small task.

Vinnie · Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:01 pm Post subject:

which means the many share holders that are not members of any of the listed official clubs are not represented.
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Soundwave · Joined: 15 Jul 2008 Posts: 819 Location: Edinburgh

Pretty much. Have the shareholders ever got together and asked for a space on the board though? Would the shareholders have people willing to organise, subsidise and administrate a fair and democratic election process?

I don't see why the Forum should come under critcism for thinking of it first.

Incidentally, I have no agenda here, I'm not a member of any official club, I just happen to know because I read the websites, press and ask people. If my views were represented at board level it would be carnage. Strippers and whores when Casa scores might not sit with the 'family club' ethos.

johnplimsole · Joined: 21 Oct 2011 Posts: 16 Location: United Kingdom

why doesnt fife finest buy a directors place on the board then would be a fans ans comunity club i would support any funraising they did as i have already invested in rrfc this year

Alan Russell · Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 1093 Location: Kirkcaldy

Thanks Soundwave, that's the point I was trying to make. At no point have I said that the fans rep shouldn't listen to anyone who has something to say, regardless of whether they are a member of a supporters group or not. And to take that further, any director of the club should listen to the views of fans (just as any director of any company listens to their customers). Any time I've spoken to any of them (regardless of whether I've been speaking in my "official" capacity or not, they've been very receptive and approachable.

My point remains: Dave Wann's primary responsibility is to represent the views of the shareholders who elected him to the board. The supporters groups form the Forum to make that process practical and representative, and the Trust pays for us to have this privilege - running this process costs hundreds of pounds, which I think is a price worth paying for democracy. Join any one of these groups and you get a say - I don't mind which one, this is not a sales pitch for the Trust. Each time we've done this we've struggled to find candidates willing to stand, so an election hasn't been necessary which I think is a shame. I'd love it if more people got involved, either by making themselves part of the electorate or by putting themselves forward as candidates. I'm not really sure how we're meant to involve people if they won't even take the smallest step themselves.
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