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Gary2810 · Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 30 Location: Scumfermline

Well Guys What Do Use Think Good Or Bad Idea? I Hope It Does Happen And If It Does I Think We Have A Good Chance In Being Selected In The Spl. Out Of The 12 Spl Managers 7 Of Them Agree To The Change So I Do Hope Some Thing Gets Done.

scotty · Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 9065 Location: Almost Dysart.

I vote yes but that would have to be just the beginning. There has to be more change than (as well as) just increasing the size of the top flight.

Since the Premier league was invented in the 1970's (to save the Scottish games flagging fortunes) we've had more teams and we've had less teams in the league and the only things that haven't changed is that year in year out the standard has gotten worse, the OF have gotten more of the share (and still gotten poorer for it Shocked

) and our stature in Europe has diminished further.

Since 1981 and all home gates were no longer shared the OF have gotten richer and therefore as expected dominated the domestic scene but without the positive spion-off of doing well in Europe.

The problem as I see it, too many clubs and not enough supporters/cash to go around.
We could sell the product to television but it's so poor nobody wants to buy it (other than the OFs games).
Simply increaing the SPL numbers won't cure this sick beast. A national (UK) cup comp' (anyone remeber the Texaco Cup?) for teams not involved in European action could prove an incentive for sides who could be in the meaningless games zone that would/could occur in a larger league.

I'd also like to see a major overhaul of the mechanics of things too. Make it law that in the top flight you must play two U21s in your starting line-up.

Make it law that in the other leagues below the SPL you can have no more than 6 fulltime players over the age of 21 yrs, but as many fulltime U21 as you like.

Surely both those suggestions would bee good for the game.
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Geordie_Munro · Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 905 Location: Boise, ID.

Rangers and Celtic will definately put the brakes on this, just like they always do. Trouble is that Rangers and Celtic are only interested in Rangers and Celtic. They don't want to be playing even diddier teams like us, the Pars and Plastic Whistle..........

Wish they would just go to their English Premiership dream worlds and leave the real teams with real fans to play in a league where the SPL title isn't bought every year and paid for by glory hunters from Kirkcaldy, Dunfermline, Greenock, Ayr and Stirling.

Definately time for change, and a bigger priority in my view is to merge the SPL, SFA and SFL to reduce red tape and start to get the game in this country off it's knees. Unfortunately, turkeys don't vote for christmas.....
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rovers4ever · Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 5314 Location: Burntisland

For change to happen, a 10-2 vote is needed. That puts the kibosh on it really.

The fans want it, managers want it and I daresay players want it too. However, its the chairmen who have the voting power and they don't want it as they'd prefer to rake in the money.
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Vinnie · Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:04 pm Post subject:

Yer_maw · Joined: 14 Jul 2008 Posts: 644 Location: Kirkcaldy

Vinnie has pretty much posted what I was going to say ie there are other teams ahead of us that would probably fit the criteria for playing in a 12 team SPL league before us.

EDIT - meant 16 team SPL league.

rovers4ever · Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 5314 Location: Burntisland

Scary Bear · Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 2739 Location: Sunny Kirkcaldy

Walter Smith even thinks it's a diddy league! Laughing

He called the split embarrassing and wants an 18 team league. The man talks sense.
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rovers4ever · Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 5314 Location: Burntisland

KdyHeelsLover · Joined: 01 Jan 2010 Posts: 132 Location: Kirkcaldy.

20 team league like English Premier.

38 games a season and only playing teams once home and away instead of the 4 times a season we already have which is woeful.

Tam · Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:02 am Post subject:

Its pathetic when the vast majority of people who follow Scottish Football realised many years ago the SPL and the SFL three league system are an embarrassing failure.

daryl1990 · Joined: 20 Jul 2008 Posts: 2510 Location: glenrothes

Geordie_Munro · Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 905 Location: Boise, ID.

Vinnie · Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:04 am Post subject:

Tam · Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:08 am Post subject:

Agree with your debt sentiments Vinnie however, I think the majority of European clubs are in debt especially the "successful" Rolling Eyes

clubs.

In fact most clubs are in debt they are just as bad as the governments, banks, etc etc Rolling Eyes

Where's Alvin Hall, Martins Money Tips when you need 'em?